Add a warning to ban messages regarding the appeal code

[Josher]

As many of you know, when somebody gets banned a message shows up telling the player he/she got banned for an X amount of time, the reason the player got banned (possibly with proof), and a unique appeal code.
This appeal code grants acces to your appeal. If somebody else knows your code, this person could open an appeal on your behalf, resulting in the disappearance of your chance to create a fair appeal.

Many players are not aware of the real purpose of this code, which leads to lots of people uploading screen shots of their ban message on various platforms (Discord: #staff-help, .Forums: Support section, etc.).
A good way to prevent people from showing their appeal code publicly would simply be to add a warning to the ban message: telling the player NOT to share his/her appeal code with anybody.

Spoiler: Something like this

Keep in mind this is just an example of what it should look like. The exact sentence telling the player to keep the appeal code private could be explained with other words as well, of course. (However, it should be something short though)

That’s it for now.
Thanks for taking the time to read this suggestion, and make sure to let me know your thoughts about this idea by voting in the poll above or commenting on this thread! ^-^

~ Josher

 

[Keanu]

@Camezonda

 

[Kloska]

+1

 

[Fedde2001]

100% Agreed this is a must have!

Actually pretty inquisitive how you got the screenshot?

 

[Onik]

I'm gonna be the person who says 'No', while this idea may be great, I think it's already pretty clear when it says "You can appeal this ban at appeals.cubecraft.net using the appeal code: ####" Now if you go an share this information then you take blame for your own mistake and at least you'll learn from it next time you decide to post a picture, make sure nothing important like information towards your account is present. Here's my opinion tho, even if you include that information, people usually read up till the point where it says they have been banned for "time", they usually view the evidence then go to the forums or Discord and post their "ban" picture and state that they're innocent blaming it on lag or some third-party issue, because they want an immediate solution to their problems.

 

[PerryJ]

I'm gonna be the person who says 'No', while this idea may be great, I think it's already pretty clear when it says "You can appeal this ban at appeals.cubecraft.net using the appeal code: ####" Now if you go an share this information then you take blame for your own mistake and at least you'll learn from it next time you decide to post a picture, make sure nothing important like information towards your account is present. Here's my opinion tho, even if you include that information, people usually read up till the point where it says they have been banned for "time", they usually view the evidence then go to the forums or Discord and post their "ban" picture and state that they're innocent blaming it on lag or some third-party issue, because they want an immediate solution to their problems.

Well I have news for you. Some people are just...not that smart or are in total panic when they see that message. Resulting in posting it to Discord and other places. The more information about your warning or ban, the better in my opinion. I'm surprised this was never suggested before by the way.

 

[Onik]

Well I have news for you. Some people are just...not that smart or are in total panic when they see that message. Resulting in posting it to Discord and other places. The more information about your warning or ban, the better in my opinion. I'm surprised this was never suggested before by the way.

Read the last sentence of my post, then re-read it.

 

[PerryJ]

Read the last sentence of my post, then re-read it.

I did. My point still stands.

 

[Onik]

I did. My point still stands.

I meant for this part, "Well I have news for you. Some people are just...not that smart or are in total panic when they see that message. Resulting in posting it to Discord and other places." I mentioned basically the same information, not really news to me :thonk:. However I do agree, with ya on, "I'm surprised this was never suggested before by the way." But I think people would still panic even if you provided more information, people usually tend to want the information to be 'brief and to the point'.

 

[PerryJ]

I meant for this part, "Well I have news for you. Some people are just...not that smart or are in total panic when they see that message. Resulting in posting it to Discord and other places." I mentioned basically the same information, not really news to me :thonk:. However I do agree, with ya on, "I'm surprised this was never suggested before by the way." But I think people would still panic even if you provided more information, people usually tend to want the information to be 'brief and to the point'.

Try to be more specific in the future. That way you prevent people to get confused. The warning to not share the appeal code may not be brief, but It's very on point.
And that's what It's all about. Give people a chance to understand their warning/ban. I'll leave it here right now. I don't want it to be a yes and no discussion if you know what I mean. We've made our point I think.

 

[CatLoverSupreme]

As many of you know, when somebody gets banned a message shows up telling the player he/she got banned for an X amount of time, the reason the player got banned (possibly with proof), and a unique appeal code.
This appeal code grants acces to your appeal. If somebody else knows your code, this person could open an appeal on your behalf, resulting in the disappearance of your chance to create a fair appeal.

Many players are not aware of the real purpose of this code, which leads to lots of people uploading screen shots of their ban message on various platforms (Discord: #staff-help, .Forums: Support section, etc.).
A good way to prevent people of showing their appeal code publicly would simply be to add a warning to the ban message: telling the player to NOT share his/her appeal code with anybody.

Spoiler: Something like this

View attachment 153229 Keep in mind this is just an example of what it should look like. The exact sentence telling the player to keep the appeal code private could be explained with other words as well, of course. (However, it should be something short though)

That’s it for now.
Thanks for taking the time to read this suggestion, and make sure to let me know your thoughts about this idea by voting in the poll above or commenting on this thread! ^-^

~ Josher

It's about time someone suggested this!

 

[Aosm]

good suggestion, i agree :)

 

[Fedde2001]

I think it's already pretty clear when it says "You can appeal this ban at appeals.cubecraft.net using the appeal code: ####" Now if you go an share this information then you take blame for your own mistake and at least you'll learn from it

Well I have news for you. Some people are just...not that smart or are in total panic when they see that message.

To add, this isn’t only a ‘smart/not that smart’ thing.
Like 3 months ago I would have prob do the same (If I would be banned somehow) just because of the lack of knowledge about the way to appeal and about the code.

‘Kids’ who have the same would defefinetly be more ‘aware’ of what the code means, if that is added to the message.
If then they still post it, i would agree with Onik and let it be their responsibility.

 

[Keanu]

@Onikpig you’re saying the banned one shouldn’t share it and that it’s their own responsibility and yes it it, but that isn’t a reason to not add it?

 

[Josher]

I'm gonna be the person who says 'No', while this idea may be great, I think it's already pretty clear when it says "You can appeal this ban at appeals.cubecraft.net using the appeal code: ####" Now if you go an share this information then you take blame for your own mistake and at least you'll learn from it next time you decide to post a picture.

This is where the problem lies! Why should players get punished for being punished?! o_O
Why shouldn't Cube provide this info about the appeal code immediately in stead of letting the players "learn from it next time"...?

Most players who are given an appeal code after getting banned don't know the real purpose of it, lots of them just think it is some kind of captcha verifying thing the'll need to do in order to appeal...
That's usually the reason they just post a screen shot of their ban message wherever they try to find help. Not because they're to lazy to read 3 more sentences...

Actually pretty inquisitive how you got the screenshot?

Well... Because somebody posted this screen shot in the Support section here on the forums a while ago!
I saved the picture and edited the YouTube link providing the proof of this player's infraction to keep his identity anonymous.
(And of course added the text saying what extra info about the appeal code should be added to the ban message along with the arrow saying "This is a must-have".)

 

[Onik]

This is where the problem lies! Why should players get punished for being punished?! o_O
Why shouldn't Cube provide this info about the appeal code immediately in stead of letting the players "learn from it next time"...?

Most players who are given an appeal code after getting banned don't know the real purpose of it, lots of them just think it is some kind of captcha verifying thing the'll need to do in order to appeal...
That's usually the reason they just post a screen shot of their ban message wherever they try to find help. Not because they're to lazy to read 3 more sentences...

You know I would just ignore this post as I only stated my opinion on the matter, but when people begin to view my personal opinion on the matter as something else, then what it was purposely intended, that is really annoying if I may say. Here's what I am getting from viewing all these replies towards my opinion, it's mentioned that they shouldn't implement this towards bans. Now if you go do yourself a favour an, re-read my statement, I refrained from using "should or shouldn't" because for one it's quite a strong word used to target someone or something, therefore, I used the word, "No" as I just intended to state an opinion towards the post. Before you go off on a tangent and play the role of the victim, as stated, this was my personal opinion towards your post. High key quote on "think". If cube decides to implement it or not, I don't have much say towards what decision they decide to take, I'm just simply stating, "Hey....I don't think it would be that beneficial to add something that will probably just get overlooked", but you know what if they do decide to add it. Just know, it'll 'probably' just be overlooked, and people will 'probably' keep posting it on discord or the forums. Now before I go off on a tangent myself, lemme add this other quote since you both seem to have the same typical view...

@Onikpig you’re saying the banned one shouldn’t share it and that it’s their own responsibility and yes it it, but that isn’t a reason to not add it?

...ah yes, as mentioned above, I refrained from using the word 'should or shouldn't', because it can be used to directly/indirectly target someone or something. What I did state though as mentioned here, "Here's my opinion tho, even if you include that information, people usually read up till the point where it says they have been banned for "time", they usually view the evidence then go to the forums or Discord and post their "ban" picture and state that they're innocent blaming it on lag or some third-party issue, because they want an immediate solution to their problems." (I italicized the words to help you understand what was being stated in this statement). Now to address the issue as to why you're to be blamed for sharing information like that, as mentioned basically everywhere (unless you overlook the small details of course) if a person decides to share anything, related to their personal account, they are to be blamed for sharing that information. In the real world, for instance (edit), if you post anything about your personal information, that basically allows others permission towards private information, then you're basically screwed and you won't have someone to reassure you that everything will be fine and that everything has an easy fix solution. Returning back to why they should be blamed for their actions, well at least you'll learn a valuable lesson in life, at a young age, maybe next time you'll read the whole information out, and not panic about it. Rather than panicking about it, allow a damn good amount of time to pass, so you can build a damn good explanation, that reassures your point and perspective with as much small detail. Instead of striking and expecting an immediate answer to your issues.

Thank you for your time and considerations, Edit: (As mentioned prior by a good fella PerryJ, "I'll leave it here right now. I don't want it to be a yes and no discussion if you know what I mean. We've made our point I think.")
- Onik

 

[Keanu]

You know I would just ignore this post as I only stated my opinion on the matter, but when people begin to view my personal opinion on the matter as something else, then what it was purposely intended, that is really annoying if I may say. Here's what I am getting from viewing all these replies towards my opinion, it's mentioned that they shouldn't implement this towards bans. Now if you go do yourself a favour an, re-read my statement, I refrained from using "should or shouldn't" because for one it's quite a strong word used to target someone or something, therefore, I used the word, "No" as I just intended to state an opinion towards the post. Before you go off on a tangent and play the role of the victim, as stated, this was my personal opinion towards your post. High key quote on "think". If cube decides to implement it or not, I don't have much say towards what decision they decide to take, I'm just simply stating, "Hey....I don't think it would be that beneficial to add something that will probably just get overlooked", but you know what if they do decide to add it. Just know, it'll 'probably' just be overlooked, and people will 'probably' keep posting it on discord or the forums. Now before I go off on a tangent myself, lemme add this other quote since you both seem to have the same typical view...
...ah yes, as mentioned above, I refrained from using the word 'should or shouldn't', because it can be used to directly/indirectly target someone or something. What I did state though as mentioned here, "Here's my opinion tho, even if you include that information, people usually read up till the point where it says they have been banned for "time", they usually view the evidence then go to the forums or Discord and post their "ban" picture and state that they're innocent blaming it on lag or some third-party issue, because they want an immediate solution to their problems." (I italicized the words to help you understand what was being stated in this statement). Now to address the issue as to why you're to be blamed for sharing information like that, as mentioned basically everywhere (unless you overlook the small details of course) if a person decides to share anything, related to their personal account, they are to be blamed for sharing that information. In the real world, if you post anything about your personal information, that basically allows others permission towards private information, then you're basically screwed and you won't have someone to reassure you that everything will be fine and that everything has an easy fix solution. Returning back to why they should be blamed for their actions, well at least you'll learn a valuable lesson in life, at a young age, maybe next time you'll read the whole information out, and not panic about it. Rather than panicking about it, allow a damn good amount of time to pass, so you can build a damn good explanation, that reassures your point and perspective with as much small details. Instead of striking and expecting an immediate answer to your issues.

Thank you for your time and considerations,
- Onik

to be honest, i can't get much out of your reply. yes, they might learn their lesson irl but why should online people care about someone getting an irl lesson and not about someone else making their appeal?

yes, there might be more information to read and they might panic more but that's just a rumour atm and not a proved thing.

 

[Onik]

to be honest, i can't get much out of your reply. yes, they might learn their lesson irl but why should online people care about someone getting an irl lesson and not about someone else making their appeal?

yes, there might be more information to read and they might panic more but that's just a rumour atm and not a proved thing.

Well, you are to be blamed for making an idiotic decision to posting that picture, when it's clear on 'Here's your code so you can appeal'. However, I'm not too sure how the appeals work, but I'm sure that if someone has appealed for you, you can always contact Cube's support and state that someone has made an appeal on your behalf without your knowledge or consent and ask if they could remove the post and or provide you with another code or way to provide an appropriate appeal. As for the irl thingy, I included that as an example, will edit and mark it as edit to fix and resolve any confusion.

 

[Keanu]

However, I'm not too sure how the appeals work, but I'm sure that if someone has appealed for you, you can always contact Cube's support and state that someone has made an appeal on your behalf without your knowledge or consent and ask if they could remove the post and or provide you with another code or way to provide an appropriate appeal

afaik they should contact the staffer who issued the punishment but theres no such thing to fully reset an appeal, however i don't see why it's not worth a shot: we might be able to prevent other people from appealing (in the most cases) your ban and reduce the amount of work staffers have to do.

 

[Onik]

however i don't see why it's not worth a shot: we might be able to prevent other people from appealing (in the most cases) your ban and reduce the amount of work staffers have to do.

Not sure if you read the post prior to the one answering your quote, but I made it clear that I didn't intend my opinion as something that should or shouldn't be implemented, just made a statement of thought towards the subject.