[Discussion] 1.11 Shields

[Power Ranger]

Eventually cubecraft will have to update or they can be scrubs like most other servers and with that update will come the very powerful 1.11 shields. For those who don't know 1.11 vanilla shields block all damage and reduce knockback 100%. I personally would love to see pretty much every 1.11 & 1.10 feature added to cubecraft except these shields :P Some spigot/bukkit servers I play cause knockback to be taken when using 1.11 shields so they can be edited :P I personally would like to see 1.11 shields block all damage still but have the person take knockback as 1.9 shields are really bad :P
What do you guys think about the changes to shields?

 

[MagnificentSpam]

Hmm, I'm not sure about this. I generally don't like changing core game mechanics, for example I dislike all those servers that disable the weapon cooldown and I'm also not a big fan of the weird mechanics in survival games. I'd prefer for the combat to feel as close to vanilla mc as possible. Maybe they could greatly increase the durability the shield looses on a melee attack so people can't just hide behind theirr shield forever but can still use it against bows.

 

[agent320]

Well with the 1.9 update bowspamming became more powerful than ever and being able to block it should be possible. But lets say this. Before ANYONE complains we should test it. Lets look at a recent example. Sombra from overwatch. When people got a first look into her everyone though she was overpowered and would completly change the meta. Look at her now. Even after some buff she is still nowhere near viability. You cant judge something just by looking at it once. Lets take another example. Ana. Since Ana was the first hero to be released after the initial 22 started blizzard had no idea how to balance a new hero.
Feedback 1 week after her release
"ANA NEEDS BUFFS"
Blizzard slapped her with some big buffs and once people learned how to play her it started the dreadful triple tank meta.
The feedback then was
"ANA NEEDS NERFS"
People judged just by looking at it once. That should never be.

 

[Power Ranger]

Well with the 1.9 update bowspamming became more powerful than ever and being able to block it should be possible. But lets say this. Before ANYONE complains we should test it. Lets look at a recent example. Sombra from overwatch. When people got a first look into her everyone though she was overpowered and would completly change the meta. Look at her now. Even after some buff she is still nowhere near viability. You cant judge something just by looking at it once. Lets take another example. Ana. Since Ana was the first hero to be released after the initial 22 started blizzard had no idea how to balance a new hero.
Feedback 1 week after her release
"ANA NEEDS BUFFS"
Blizzard slapped her with some big buffs and once people learned how to play her it started the dreadful triple tank meta.
The feedback then was
"ANA NEEDS NERFS"
People judged just by looking at it once. That should never be.

I play on multiple 1.11 vanilla pvp servers and most had to drastically reduce the durability of shields to prevent people from turtling :P One server has the shields be 1 use pretty much and they are still very useful for comboing someone :P

 

[ElPtricko]

The anti-knockback with the shield should definently stay in my opinion. But that players with the shield activated get 0% damage from swords and axes is what i don't like, especially in pvp games. So in my opinion they should keep the shield as it is now.

 

[WolfShine]

Eventually cubecraft will have to update or they can be scrubs like most other servers and with that update will come the very powerful 1.11 shields :p For those who don't know 1.11 vanilla shields block all damage and reduce knockback 100%. I personally would love to see pretty much every 1.11 & 1.10 feature added to cubecraft except these shields :p Some spigot/bukkit servers I play cause knockback to be taken when using 1.11 shields so they can be edited :p I personally would like to see 1.11 shields block all damage still but have the person take knockback as 1.9 shields are really bad :p
What do you guys think about the changes to shields? :p

I only care about the anti-knockback being way too OP.

 

[ElPtricko]

I only care about the anti-knockback being way too OP.

But if they remove the antiknockback in shields, they end up being pretty much useless. Everyone uses shields to block the knockback from bows.

 

[gabbyy]

imo the shields should stay just how they are. i understand they can be quite annoying at times but you can just hit them from the back ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) so that they do take damage or you can just hit them until their shield breaks

 

[ElPtricko]

imo the shields should stay just how they are. i understand they can be quite annoying at times but you can just hit them from the back ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) so that they do take damage or you can just hit them until their shield breaks

I do agree!

 

[skps2010]

I have another idea: Shield should stay as how it is, but if you block melee attack with it, the shield will take damage equal to the strength of the attack*5, so the shield can still block arrows, but it will break much faster if it blocks melee attack.

 

[Power Ranger]

But if they remove the antiknockback in shields, they end up being pretty much useless. Everyone uses shields to block the knockback from bows.

This is talking about minecraft 1.11 shields that, when you use them, you take no knockback from melee attacks as well. Arrows are fine :P

imo the shields should stay just how they are. i understand they can be quite annoying at times but you can just hit them from the back ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) so that they do take damage or you can just hit them until their shield breaks

Stay the way they are as in 1.9 shields? :P If you don't play 1.11 only servers this probably doesn't make much sense to you :P If you're not taking about that then Ive tested it with a friend who is an incredibly good pvper and strafer and he was not able to get behind me at all :P Also in 1.11 it will take you 42 hits with a diamond sword to finally break the shield and 42 more if they are trolling and have another shield

 

[ElPtricko]

I have another idea: Shield should stay as how it is, but if you block melee attack with it, the shield will take damage equal to the strength of the attack*5, so the shield can still block arrows, but it will break much faster if it blocks melee attack.

Thats a good idea.

 

[gabbyy]

Ive tested it with a friend who is an incredibly good pvper and strafer and he was not able to get behind me at all

it really depends how good the person is at pvp, i'm kinda used to it since I always used to play on a kitpvp server where people would use shields all the time so i kinda know how to get around them lol