Bedrock [EggWars] Suggestions for Kits

[DarkStray]

Cubecraft Eggwars Kit Update
Bedrock Suggestion

Current Cubecraft Kit’s (OP)​

Kit: Baker

• 1 Cake - 15 Iron​

Kit: Builder

• 15 Blocks - 5 Iron

Kit: Miner

• Stone Pickaxe Eff V - 12 Diamonds

What do you see wrong here?​

I see a kit being OP compared to the other ones(and another that’s bad), in the Builder and Baker kit’s they both cost iron, something that you can obtain on your main base in every map.
With the Miner kit the (mining) equivalent is 12 Diamonds, I can not get these off spawn. It takes more than 15 seconds to obtain this

My Kit Suggestions (OP)

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Kit: Baker

• 3 Golden Carrots/Bread - 5 Iron (bread suggestion is just so “baker” makes more sense)​

Kit: Builder

• 15 Blocks - 5 Iron

Kit: Miner

• Stone Pickaxe Eff III - 5 gold (because the 1 iron is Eff II)
  OR
• Iron Pickaxe Eff II - 5 Gold (to lower the damage difference between 5 gold pic and kit)

Why Should Cube do This?​

To make the games fair. This pickaxe, compared to the other kits, is just OP way too OP. And the Baker kit is just so bad, even in normal mode. It didn’t even get a buff when OP came out.

I said 3 Golden Carrots/Bread, because golden carrots are good, you can get them from spawn island without leaving it. A N D - I T ‘ S - W O R T H - I R O N.

Now I did suggest to make the pickaxe something that is worth 5 gold, yes I did, simply because it’s a 1 iron item and compared to the blocks, the blocks will be more OP. NOW gold isn’t something that is always available at spawn, that is true BUT you can instantly rush center and get that 5 gold a lot faster than 12 Diamonds. PLUS gold is found on spawn islands on many of the maps, and in all solo maps.

Spoiler: About Generators

Iron (lvl1) - 1 Second
Gold (lvl1) - 5 Seconds
Diamond (lvl1) - 10 Seconds

What does this mean?
This means with a single generator
It takes 5 seconds to get 5 iron
it takes 25 seconds to get 5 gold
It takes 50 seconds to get 5 diamonds

Meaning with the current kits it takes(saves)
||Kit | Seconds Saved Farming for said Item||
Baker - 15 Seconds
Miner - 5 seconds
Miner - 120 seconds

Meaning with the Kits I made it takes(saves)
Baker - 5 Seconds
Miner - 5 Seconds
Miner - 25 Seconds

The Miner kit will be more OP, yes, but it will at least be more FAIR, because you don’t have to leave your base(most of the time) to collect this item, just like the others.

Spoiler: Video Showing Current Pickaxe = 12 Diamonds

 

[DarkStray]

I would like to add, in normal mode

The miner kit = Efficiency 2 wood
This is a lot more fair than what it is in OP mode, this efficiency 2 wood is around the same speed as the Iron pickaxe worth 3 gold

 

[Vrachtschip]

Hi there!

I get your point, but they nerfed the pickaxe a while ago.
They got a lot of negative reactions on doing this, so I dont know why they should nerf it again.
The pickaxe is perfect as it is now: you can insta-mine on the bridge and mining obsidian takes long enough.
By giving more blocks they will promote rushing, because you can attack the island next to you in solo instant. I dont think they will give you more blocks because of this reason.

 

[DarkStray]

Hi there!

I get your point, but they nerfed the pickaxe a while ago.
They got a lot of negative reactions on doing this, so I dont know why they should nerf it again.
The pickaxe is perfect as it is now: you can insta-mine on the bridge and mining obsidian takes long enough.
By giving more blocks they will promote rushing, because you can attack the island next to you in solo instant. I dont think they will give you more blocks because of this reason.

It is not perfect, it costs 12 diamonds. How am I going to get 12 diamonds by the time I get 2 cakes?
How am I going to get 12 diamonds by the time I get a stack of blocks?
How am I going to Get 12 diamonds by the time it takes to get 2 cakes and a stack of blocks?

I can’t that’s how it’s unfair still

 

[qMelonn]

I agree with this...although I usually only pick the builder kit anyway, it would be nice to see the baker kit actually somewhat useful. For the miner kit, I think the iron pickaxe with eff 2 would be good as well. Unfortunately, people who camp bridges with the eff 5 stone will complain that they can't insta kill people anymore.

 

[Void Krun]

Baker, i agree with but miner? Its already so debuffed that nobody uses it and its not even that fast. As soon as the update was made nobody is spleefing with it now.

 

[Vrachtschip]

I agree with this...although I usually only pick the builder kit anyway, it would be nice to see the baker kit actually somewhat useful. For the miner kit, I think the iron pickaxe with eff 2 would be good as well. Unfortunately, people who camp bridges with the eff 5 stone will complain that they can't insta kill people anymore.

Are you serious? Camp on bridges? The pickaxe is good for the attacking players, spleefing campers with full iron is great. Yesterday I won a 1v7 with it, they all had full iron by camping the whole game on their own island.
And it isnt a 12 diamonds pickaxe, because breaking obsidian takes longer with the stone pickaxe.
I get your point about the baker kit, but everybody can choose the builder of miner kit.

 

[DarkStray]

Baker, i agree with but miner? Its already so debuffed that nobody uses it and its not even that fast. As soon as the update was made nobody is spleefing with it now.

I was testing it when I recorded that video on solos, It’s still fairly easy to spleef people, the player wasn’t even bad he was a sweat and good at the game. Sure it was on mobile but this kid straight 6 iron rushed the first base then pushed me.
It still breaks way to fast and still, comparing it to the other kits, it is still unfairly OP in many ways.

Edit: It’s not about the kit being liked, it’s about it being fair and easily accessible like the other kits.

Like the Builder kit isn’t 10 Obsidian (30 gold)
The Baker kit isn’t a Enchanted Golden Apple (10 diamonds)
But the Miner kit is a Efficiency “IV Diamond Pickaxe” (12 Diamonds)

 

[Awabbatt]

tbh the only problem i see with the miner kit is that they nerfed it to a stone pick eff 4, which i think the mining speed of it is perfect, but in duos, its soo hard to rush a team, they both choose miner with a stone pick and then kill you.

 

[DarkStray]

tbh the only problem i see with the miner kit is that they nerfed it to a stone pick eff 4, which i think the mining speed of it is perfect, but in duos, its soo hard to rush a team, they both choose miner with a stone pick and then kill you.

Iron (lvl1) - 1 Second
Gold (lvl1) - 5 Seconds
Diamond (lvl1) - 10 Seconds

What does this mean?
This means with a single generator
It takes 5 seconds to get 5 iron
it takes 25 seconds to get 5 gold
It takes 50 seconds to get 5 diamonds

Meaning with the current kits it takes(saves)
||Kit | Seconds Saved Farming for said Item||
Baker - 15 Seconds
Miner - 5 seconds
Miner - 120 seconds

Meaning with the Kits I made it takes(saves)
Baker - 5 Seconds
Miner - 5 Seconds
Miner - 25 Seconds

The Miner kit will be more OP, yes, but it will at least be more FAIR, because you don’t have to leave your base(most of the time) to collect this item, just like the others.

I don’t see how it’s fair?

 

[Vrachtschip]

I was testing it when I recorded that video on solos, It’s still fairly easy to spleef people, the player wasn’t even bad he was a sweat and good at the game. Sure it was on mobile but this kid straight 6 iron rushed the first base then pushed me.
It still breaks way to fast and still, comparing it to the other kits, it is still unfairly OP in many ways.

Edit: It’s not about the kit being liked, it’s about it being fair and easily accessible like the other kits.

Like the Builder kit isn’t 10 Obsidian (30 gold)
The Baker kit isn’t a Enchanted Golden Apple (10 diamonds)
But the Miner kit is a Efficiency “IV Diamond Pickaxe” (12 Diamonds)

It isnt a 12 diamond pickaxe! Mining obsidian with a stone pickaxe takes way longer..

 

[DarkStray]

It isnt a 12 diamond pickaxe! Mining obsidian with a stone pickaxe takes way longer..

No it does not lmao, it has the same efficiency at mining blocks watch the video here

Spoiler: Video Showing Current Pickaxe = 12 Diamonds

 

[Vrachtschip]

No it does not lmao, it has the same efficiency at mining blocks watch the video here

No its not, try mining obsidian. Mining stone is the same.

 

[pieterpeer]

Totally disagree, it's called overpowered for a reason and it really shouldn't be nerfed in my opinion. A lot of players in mega EggWars are campers and the Efficiency V Stone Pickaxe gives us (the normal players) a chance to defeat them by using the pickaxe to mine the thick layer of insanely cheap obsidian or by spleefing those people that literally camp the whole game and get stacked without fighting or doing anything. Removing this will give the campers more advantage and I'm against that.

 

[DarkStray]

Totally disagree, it's called overpowered for a reason and it really shouldn't be nerfed in my opinion. A lot of players in mega EggWars are campers and the Efficiency V Stone Pickaxe gives us (the normal players) a chance to defeat them by using the pickaxe to mine the thick layer of insanely cheap obsidian or by spleefing those people that literally camp the whole game and get stacked without fighting or doing anything. Removing this will give the campers more advantage and I'm against that.

That is correct, it is called Over Powered for a reason
BUT MAKING IT MORE OVERPOWERED THAN ALL THE OTHER KITS IS NOT FAIR

It takes 2 minutes to get the equivalent on mining speed for that pickaxe giving them a LATE GAME ITEM
Sure yea it’s called OP but the kit shouldn’t be unfair compared to the others

 

[pieterpeer]

That is correct, it is called Over Powered for a reason
BUT MAKING IT MORE OVERPOWERED THAN ALL THE OTHER KITS IS NOT FAIR

It takes 2 minutes to get the equivalent on mining speed for that pickaxe giving them a LATE GAME ITEM
Sure yea it’s called OP but the kit shouldn’t be unfair compared to the others

Woa calm down, I get what you mean but lowering the pickaxe again after they lowered it already doesn't seem right. Me and a lot of people love the pickaxe just as it is but maybe they could change the shop items in OP mode. In my opinion I think it's really not that necessary to change it because I also don't really see any other critisism, but that's my opinion.

 

[DarkStray]

Woa calm down, I get what you mean but lowering the pickaxe again after they lowered it already doesn't seem right. Me and a lot of people love the pickaxe just as it is but maybe they could change the shop items in OP mode. In my opinion I think it's really not that necessary to change it because I also don't really see any other critisism, but that's my opinion.

Literally I play cube because it’s fair with it’s loot pool. This is the only case where I see it’s garbage

Hive sucks because they have no clue how to balance items

Same with galaxite

And mineville, literally iron swords are 2x better than a stone over there and Diamond sword being 3x better

Nd the Mineplex and lifeboat, it’s okay I guess, it’s fair yea but 1 chest gives you a full kit in SkyWars

 

[Vrachtschip]

I think you are spending the whole game on your own island. 15 december you made a thread for removing the pickaxe and make it Efficiency IV, but now its still bad? Do you have clips of the times you think the pickaxe is too OP?

 

[DarkStray]

I think you are spending the whole game on your own island. 15 december you made a thread for removing the pickaxe and make it Efficiency IV, but now its still bad? Do you have clips of the times you think the pickaxe is too OP?

Yes watch the clip at the bottom of my post :)
It shows how the new pic is the equivalent to the Diamond pickaxe worth 12 Diamonds

 

[Vrachtschip]

Yes watch the clip at the bottom of my post :)
It shows how the new pic is the equivalent to the Diamond pickaxe worth 12 Diamonds

No its not lol. Try mining obsidian to compare it! Clay is the worst block to test it