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Also, no you can't just chug an infinite amount of golden apples and stay alive. Maybe if your enemy is stupid enough to use an axe, which brings me to my next point: Anyone with the slightest skill in 1.9 would prefer a sword, simply because it has so much more DPS than an axe + The fact that you can hit them more doing more knockback, and causing the same effect that rodding your enemy before going at it with your weapon does, only then throughout the whole fight.
Also, blockhitting with a sword is just idiotic because it means you can't (or barely can) strafe, causing you to hopelessly die in that 2v1 you mentioned.
About the offhand: Anyone that's not a fool knows what your enemy is up to if they have a lava bucket in their offhand.
If you go to the minecraft server list you will find many 1.8 servers
I know 1.8 is not entirely clicking speed, but most strategies can be applied to 1.9 with minimal change. Also, the fact that you went straight to insulting my competence at PvP says something about you as a person, but I'll ignore that.
Being honest, I'm not a competitive PvPer, and I don't know half the strategies you mentioned, but I'm still pretty good. I do want to point a few things out though; First off, golden apple chugging has never been a good strategy and it never will be. It's a cheap move that solely relies on how you supplies compare to that of your opponents', if you have more gapples then you will win. In 1.9, that cheap strategy is negatable. It makes it so that, when golden apples are part of the supplies offered, the fight takes more skill. You also proved your own point invalid. You said that you need to distance yourself from your opponent before you can chug apples, and the same applies in 1.9.
Second, yes, I do know that the best possible strategy in 1.9 is moving in and out of someone's reach with an axe. In real life, when using a battleaxe, the best way to strike is by lunging and then backing away. The thing is, you're focusing on the use of axes. Swords and axes have a level playing field if you know how to use them, so I have no clue why you're upset. I mean, now people have different weapons you have to use different strategies to deal with them and it makes for more fun in combat.
Third, block hitting is a viable strategy, when you're against someone with a sword. Axes break through shields, so it's better to dodge their attacks. Let them miss and then attack during cooldown.
Finally, 1.9 is not just "stab and chug". 1.8 was all about stabbing and chugging. 1.9 makes chugging give less of and advantage and harder to do. 1.9 requires proper thinking before running in, less based on who gets the first hit. Now, I may be wrong with that statement, but here's something undeniable. With the shields, changes to hunger, and changes to gapples, 1.9 improved PvP where Minecraft fell flat before. It's now more engaging and enjoyable for more people. Yes, it changed combat forever, but that doesn't mean we can't adapt. I'm surprised this argument is even still going on. It's clear that they're never going to revert back to 1.8 PvP, and that's fine.
One thing I forgot to point out, almost everything you said is a downside of 1.9 is what I see as an upside. This is all a matter of opinion, and I don't want to force my opinion onto you. If you don't like 1.9 PvP, that's fine. I prefer 1.9 PvP, and that's fine too. Popular opinion is supportive of 1.9 though, so there's no use in resisting it. We can learn to adapt. I'll pay attention to your next post to make sure you read this part, because, like I said, it's all opinions. I don't want to fight, so we can agree to disagree. In the future though, try not to jump straight to insulting the person that's arguing against your opinion.
I want 1.8 PVP back!
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Pots still exist in 1.9 ya know.
Also, no you can't just chug an infinite amount of golden apples and stay alive. Maybe if your enemy is stupid enough to use an axe, which brings me to my next point: Anyone with the slightest skill in 1.9 would prefer a sword, simply because it has so much more DPS than an axe + The fact that you can hit them more doing more knockback, and causing the same effect that rodding your enemy before going at it with your weapon does, only then throughout the whole fight.
Also, blockhitting with a sword is just idiotic because it means you can't (or barely can) strafe, causing you to hopelessly die in that 2v1 you mentioned.
About the offhand: Anyone that's not a fool knows what your enemy is up to if they have a lava bucket in their offhand.
In conclusion: This only applies if you suck at it or use an axe (which is basically the same thing)
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Ye now nobs like u have to wait for bow cooldown lol its not just spamming w le can shoot 10 arrows per second and we never had to eat lol
He never said 1.8 was good what are you on?
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Yes he didnt say 1.8
I don't know why you guys are still talking about this?
If you want to play 1.8 on here you can, or just play another server that are fully 1.8!
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If you want to play 1.8 on here you can, or just play another server that are fully 1.8!
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What do you mean by ''1.8 beta servers''
If you go to the minecraft server list you will find many 1.8 servers
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Sorru i meam beta 1.4 where we didnt have to eat stupid food every 10 seconds
I know 1.8 is not entirely clicking speed, but most strategies can be applied to 1.9 with minimal change. Also, the fact that you went straight to insulting my competence at PvP says something about you as a person, but I'll ignore that.
Being honest, I'm not a competitive PvPer, and I don't know half the strategies you mentioned, but I'm still pretty good. I do want to point a few things out though; First off, golden apple chugging has never been a good strategy and it never will be. It's a cheap move that solely relies on how you supplies compare to that of your opponents', if you have more gapples then you will win. In 1.9, that cheap strategy is negatable. It makes it so that, when golden apples are part of the supplies offered, the fight takes more skill. You also proved your own point invalid. You said that you need to distance yourself from your opponent before you can chug apples, and the same applies in 1.9.
Second, yes, I do know that the best possible strategy in 1.9 is moving in and out of someone's reach with an axe. In real life, when using a battleaxe, the best way to strike is by lunging and then backing away. The thing is, you're focusing on the use of axes. Swords and axes have a level playing field if you know how to use them, so I have no clue why you're upset. I mean, now people have different weapons you have to use different strategies to deal with them and it makes for more fun in combat.
Third, block hitting is a viable strategy, when you're against someone with a sword. Axes break through shields, so it's better to dodge their attacks. Let them miss and then attack during cooldown.
Finally, 1.9 is not just "stab and chug". 1.8 was all about stabbing and chugging. 1.9 makes chugging give less of and advantage and harder to do. 1.9 requires proper thinking before running in, less based on who gets the first hit. Now, I may be wrong with that statement, but here's something undeniable. With the shields, changes to hunger, and changes to gapples, 1.9 improved PvP where Minecraft fell flat before. It's now more engaging and enjoyable for more people. Yes, it changed combat forever, but that doesn't mean we can't adapt. I'm surprised this argument is even still going on. It's clear that they're never going to revert back to 1.8 PvP, and that's fine.
One thing I forgot to point out, almost everything you said is a downside of 1.9 is what I see as an upside. This is all a matter of opinion, and I don't want to force my opinion onto you. If you don't like 1.9 PvP, that's fine. I prefer 1.9 PvP, and that's fine too. Popular opinion is supportive of 1.9 though, so there's no use in resisting it. We can learn to adapt. I'll pay attention to your next post to make sure you read this part, because, like I said, it's all opinions. I don't want to fight, so we can agree to disagree. In the future though, try not to jump straight to insulting the person that's arguing against your opinion.
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