Removing the infamous Punch Bow from Egg Wars

[Djentism]

This has been suggested many times before and the polls on other threads about this tells that the many people want to keep it. I like the punch bow, but sometimes it is annoying. The punch bow is a great way to defend, but then you have campers who will break their bridge to mid so you can't touch their egg. So i think a price raise is good

 

[zHeavy]

This has been suggested many times before and the polls on other threads about this tells that the many people want to keep it. I like the punch bow, but sometimes it is annoying. The punch bow is a great way to defend, but then you have campers who will break their bridge to mid so you can't touch their egg. So i think a price raise is good

Yeah right, I agree with you. It is better that the power bow 12 diamond and the punch bv 15 dia.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

Why I why 100% agree to remove it:

"You can use a punch bow to gain distance"- While this is true, TnT does a much better job at it, doing both more damage and knockback. It's effectively a few seconds of kill aura.

"I want to check if someone is hacking" - If you have an egg and don't value your KD Ratio just run up to them with nothing and fist them. Or you can use a power bow and/or TnT.

"You just can't dodge it" - Don't even try. 70% of the time I can kill a short-range bow spammer with a wood sword.

"It's needed in OP Mode" - This suggestion is meant for normal mode only, just as mime was.

"It's a fundamental aspect of eggwars" - So was no OP Mode.

I'll say my usual game strategy again: This is on Treehouse team orange. Choose egg armour kit and grab 24 iron. Buy a wood sword and rush blue, speedbuilding. Go straight for the egg and kill all blue players. I usually do this in under 100 seconds. Grab a stone sword, a pickaxe, and steak, and rush yellow. Take out the egg and kill all players. this is typically done in under 4 minutes. Go back to home island and rush red. Take out the egg and kill all players. This is typically done in under eight minutes. By now, some people have punch bows. However, notice how I left the two teams that are in the worst position to attack us. Use this to your advantage! I know how to get around punch bows. The best way to kill someone with a punch bow is to run onto a diagonal bridge and do a 2x2 wall.

The point of me sharing that strategy is to show you don't need a punch bow to take out a team. And I'm sure the money walls folks can more than confirm this ;)

 

[MooTa]

I like punch bow but I get mad when people camp with it so it will be better if Cubecraft raise the price instead of removing it :D

 

[Phids]

It also makes the games faster. Kids will still camp their bases regardless.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

It also makes the games faster. Kids will still camp their bases regardless.

Makes the games go faster? If nobody buys bows, the game goes 3.5x faster.

 

[Phids]

Makes the games go faster? If nobody buys bows, the game goes 3.5x faster.

I'm referring to individual encounters. If I can save some time and shoot someone off a bridge opposed to chasing them across and spending a couple minutes in a sword fight I'll take it.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

I'm referring to individual encounters. If I can save some time and shoot someone off a bridge opposed to chasing them across and spending a couple minutes in a sword fight I'll take it.

Couple minutes? It takes maximum 20 seconds in normal.

 

[TacoYT]

Don't get rid of it... that would ruin Egg Wars and what ever else on there

 

[_The13thDoctor_]

No.
That all really I have to say that is not a good idea at all

 

[Phids]

Couple minutes? It takes maximum 20 seconds in normal.

Was talking about OP mode like most kids play. Still though, can't fight the fact that the bow makes things easier. I would be fine without but It's fun shooting people off the map.

 

[amgjmg]

I think it should be removed because it encourages camping and makes pvp not nearly as fun as it should be. I'm sure most of us can relate to this and have been in the situation when, during pvp, your opponent who is low on health, starts spamming the punch bow and makes it impossible to hit them with your sword. It also encourages camping and makes players afraid to leave their base. Usually after the first five minutes of game play everyone has a punch bow and no one is willing to cross a bridge with the threat of a punch bow in mind.

 

[Mr_Riolu_]

It should be kept, it is a big part of the game.

I agree ;)

 

[awesomebutter234]

Reasons to remove punch bows:

Lets be honest here, nobody gets shields until the very end for pretty good reasons. 1.It cost, a lot and if it's the middle of the game you are investing in a shield instead of armour or a bow or your gens. 2.It's durability is horrid, making your investment even less worthwhile if you did not buy the shield after you bought all your gear.

You can't exactly play the field once your opponent has seen you if they have a punch bow, because whatever position you had before you are going to get shot off, also high ground against a punch bow is a bad idea, since you will be knocked back further if you get hit.(which is why you should avoid jumping against this)

But it is the most prominent skill you need.

Exhibit A : Campers; You have to comform to what they are doing and play how they want you to play, otherwise you are not getting there. Exhibit B :eople that bow camp your island; You need to play how they want you to, because you can't go out of your island and you can't build out and killing them is ussually not an option.
Exhibit C : people that use axes;You may have to stop playing defensive and play offensive since if you play defensive you may allow your opponent with an axe to charge his atack again.
Exhibit D: People with punch bows; You are forced to stay near cover, don't do it and you die, or will never get to them since they can no-skill bow lock you(because punch bow). Also edges and punch bows, if someone with a punch bow runs around a corner you cannot follow them, it's a death sentence if you do so you are forced to give your opponent with a punch bow a break which in they could heal. I also don't believe there's any strategy to beat this alone since it's extremely hard to dodge an arrow near point blank if you have to move in a specific way, and with a shield they could just spam you off when you try it since there will be a second's pause where you can't attack. Good thing is that they can run out of arrows.(unless they have an inventory full)

Why I hate punch bows:They can be used to easily lock people in a bow combo, which is really hard to get out if if you are not near cover, and it prevents melee fights. They are a bow spammer's best friend. Makes people not need to learn how to melee fight(which is a bad thing). In op(which I rarely play) it is the most effective bow instead of the power bows.

Ironically this also goes against the new players since they could just stick to bow spamming instead of learning and harm themselves in that way. It's like riding a bike but never taking off the training wheels,if you did take them off even though you might get a couple of scars and bruises you will still improve.

He has also suggested reworking op I believe(which I am almost certain I agreed with) in a way that you don't need armor breaking, but people love to bring this bad excuse up "it's op for a reason", it should be "op within reason".

It may just anger people for a week, but it definitely won't do much if they also reworked op to not need punchbows.

Tell me, which is the first weapon you are most likely to get in any of these gamemodes? Which is the weapon that you are most likely going to use from the begginning until the end?Which is the weapon that you will need to strategize with from the beggining until late mid half? I'll tell you, any melee weapons. You don't know how to use a melee weapon and you are like a fish out of water.

Steak are the best non-gold using food item, so buying a bunch of them whenever possible is a good strategy. With the sword you could either dance around your opponent and hit them, constantly crit them, or keep pushing them back due to the sword's attack speed. Pickaxes as stated by @Nobody. can be used to spleef people making them a pretty valuable strategy.
The punch bow however, is like a cheap version of the bow since it can insta kill someone that just got back luck with the punch knockback, or died to some noob getting 1 shot while you were on the ground and then etting shot again while you were in the air.

Keep in mind, they need to regen, and check their armor durability aswell. Only difference being that they are less likely to be able to knock you off your bridge, or die to some random bow spamming noob.

Unlike the punch bow, these alternatives require a lot more skill since you need to know when to use it, but a punch bow you can shoot a person off that is 4-3 blocks away(from edge) from a distance with one shot.

Because in order to get said lucky arrow, you would need to be bowspamming in order to hit those arrows in that amount of time. Which if you didn't know(which is alarming) bowspamming takes around 0-1% skill, 50% luck, and 49% cramming a bunch of arrows in your inventory.

Normal power bows don't do this? Pretty sure any projectile can scare anyone into not building a bridge.

2 words: Come prepared. It's your fault if you are lacking blocks or arrows when you knew you would be assualting one of the islands, if you get what you need you most likely won't need to go back.(armor I understand, but then again you are assaulting campers). Also if you are close enough that they can tnt you staircase up(safely) and jump on their island.

 

[Tom25W]

Use a shield and your fine.Wheres the problem?

 

[Mr_Riolu_]

Please don`t remove ;( I`M A BOW SPAMMER!!!

 

[DragonSan]

I think the punch bow should definitely not be removed and here's why:

Yes it's very annoying when people camp and bowspam with it, believe me I've been in games that last 2 - 3 hours because of the enemy spamming arrows at me and my teammates as we try to build across. It's a great defensive weapon and people take advantage of that, but not everyone! Some people use it on base raids and to support pvp like I do.

I saw a few comments saying something like 'it ruins pvp because you cant hit them when they spam it up close' but it doesn't seem too hard to dodge arrows when they panic and spam them really quick. I've always been able to reach them with my axe and a few sidesteps, and if you have teammates backing you up then this shouldn't be a problem at all : P

Plus there are always ways around it, so strategise! Build sneaky glass bridges and get your teammates to distract them or use power bows to make them run for cover so you can gradually build over from mid. That's the whole point of eggy - strategize!

The suggestion of raising the price of the punch bow I really reccomend. It's relatively cheap at the moment which is why lots of players are able to get it and spam it quick. If you raised the price from 12 to about 25 however, this would make the weapon much rarer and help solve the issue. Yes they can still camp and try to wait for enough diamonds to buy it, but if they havn't got bows in the first place what's to stop you from building over there with a high bridge and killing them?

If it gets removed, I feel like a huge part of eggy would be missing - it's become a big part of the game and many tactics have evolved around it. It also adds a challenge to eggy (you feel so accomplished when you beat a team of camping bowpammers).

Well that's just my opinion anyways. If it gets removed then so be it, I'll just have to use tnt or something xD

 

[QuikMiner]

I think the punch bow should definitely not be removed and here's why:

Yes, it's very annoying when people camp and bow spam with it, believe me, I've been in games that last 2 - 3 hours because of the enemy spamming arrows at me and my teammates as we try to build across. It's a great defensive weapon and people take advantage of that, but not everyone! Some people use it on base raids and to support PVP like I do.

I saw a few comments saying something like 'it ruins PVP because you can't hit them when they spam it up close' but it doesn't seem too hard to dodge arrows when they panic and spam them really quick. I've always been able to reach them with my axe and a few sidesteps, and if you have teammates backing you up then this shouldn't be a problem at all : P

Plus there are always ways around it, so strategize! Build sneaky glass bridges and get your teammates to distract them or use power bows to make them run for cover so you can gradually build over from mid. That's the whole point of eggy - strategize!

The suggestion of raising the price of the punch bow I really recommend. It's relatively cheap at the moment which is why lots of players are able to get it and spam it quick. If you raised the price from 12 to about 25 however, this would make the weapon much rarer and help solve the issue. Yes, they can still camp and try to wait for enough diamonds to buy it, but if they haven't got bows in the first place what's to stop you from building over there with a high bridge and killing them?

If it gets removed, I feel like a huge part of eggy would be missing - it's become a big part of the game and many tactics have evolved around it. It also adds a challenge to eggy (you feel so accomplished when you beat a team of camping bow spammers).

Well that's just my opinion anyways. If it gets removed then so be it, I'll just have to use TNT or something xD (Grammar and spelling fixed by QuikMiner)

I agree with you. It is part of the game! If you really hate it that much, learn to safe bridge! I taught myself how, I know you can. And I have to say, I do make archery towers and arch people sometimes with the punch bow but that is part of the game! Plus, it is not that likely that people camp with it. And if so, just quit!

 

[ChasingRainbows]

If you get killed by a punch bow you have no one to blame but yourself. There's shields, safe bridges, sneakiness, all these things are counters to to punch bows. Now do I get killed by punch bows? Sure. Do I see people use them to camp? Yep. But on a 1 block wide unsafe bridge a non punch bow will knock you off, just requiring a little higher angle to do so,

 

[TheQueenWaddle]

Lmao everyone's like "pvp is melee only, punch bows are for noobs, remove it"