Why in the world would you not have vanilla damage

[Qin Shihuangdi]

Seriously. Why would you modify vanilla damage?

So me and @Rigel_The_Star were doing some tests in egg wars yesterday and found that Cube does not have vanilla damage at all.

All we did was test how many hits it took to kill me (wearing full protection 4 diamond armor) against a sharp 5 diamond sword and power 5 bow. I drained my hunger so I wouldn't regen.

Vanilla Calculations:
Power 5 bow does 24 damage (12 hearts)
With armor piercing and toughness, the power bow should do 44% of the original damage
24 x 44% = 10.56
A full set of protection 4 will block against 64% of the 10.56 damage value making the expected damage 3.8016
But nope. A 3.8 damage thing will kill you in 6 hits. It took me 16 to die.
Now for sharp 5 swords. Too lazy to redo the calculation but I know I calculated you need 11 crits to die. It took 21.
Seriously, where was the need behind this?
Just make damage vanilla 1.9.2. This originality crap is why nobody plays here. Bye

 

[Power Ranger]

Cubecraft uses vanilla damage it just isn't updated to 1.9.2 where armor was updated. Before Cubecraft went to 1.9.2 damage values they would probably have to nerf axes a bit otherwise iron armor wouldn't matter in eggwars you still would be two shot by a guy with a stone axe. I made a thread about it a few months ago https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/balancing-for-new-updates-1-11.194838/

 

[MagnificentSpam]

If they really have to support multiple versions, the server should run the current version allowing outdated clients to join. Hopefully they'll update to Minecraft: Java Edition 1.13 soon.

 

[CommunistCactus]

My opinion (just the first sentence)
Contains a synonym of feces u have been warned so no reason to censor me away now thnx

 

[0ffense]

Maybe golden apple chugging wasn't even the problem, perhaps it was this rigged vanilla damage.

Also @tspacedog you should make a poll asking whether or not Cubecraft should change its damage to vanilla.

 

[Spyridon Agnew Dragon]

If they really have to support multiple versions, the server should run the current version allowing outdated clients to join. Hopefully they'll update to Minecraft: Java Edition 1.13 soon.

Theyed have to the game gets retextured completely

 

[0ffense]

Theyed have to the game gets retextured completely

Then go to 1.12 instead, its still high time to get out of 1.9.

 

[Lilleh__]

the server should run the current version allowing outdated clients to join.

Don't think that's possible.

 

[MagnificentSpam]

Don't think that's possible.

It is. This plugin allows 1.4.7+ clients on 1.12.2 servers. Of course they will miss some features, but I think it's acceptable to just show them a placeholder like this and encourage them to update their client if it bothers them.

 

[Deleted member 169486]

Minecraft: Java Edition 1.13 soon.

Don't call it that! We can't make them think we agree.

Then go to 1.12 instead, its still high time to get out of 1.9.

People didn't like how cube moved to 1.9, but now we're pretty much the only server that has. Staying in 1.9 is just a bad idea. Unless there is some reason that the whole server will break if they update, then UPDATE! New versions have great blocks for maps and freebuild.

It is. This plugin allows 1.4.7+ clients on 1.12.2 servers. Of course they will miss some features, but I think it's acceptable to just show them a placeholder like this and encourage them to update their client if it bothers them.

Why even bother? Currently you need a 1.9+ client to play, so if your playing on server that support 1.8 and below, you need to switch anyway. Pretty much every server that support 1.9 also has support for 1.12, so there's no reason updating won't work.

 

[MagnificentSpam]

Why even bother? Currently you need a 1.9+ client to play, so if your playing on server that support 1.8 and below, you need to switch anyway. Pretty much every server that support 1.9 also has support for 1.12, so there's no reason updating won't work.

I personally would prefer if every server simply forced players to use the current version of Minecraft. Pretty much any other game does this and I don't see a reason not to. Mods aren't oficcially supported by cubecraft, they don't even care that optifine is incompatible with their survival games plugin. If mods don't get updated to the newest version that shouldn't be made everyone's problem.

But sadly as it is, people might decide against trying a server because they happen to run an outdated client and don't want to update because tehy can use that on other servers. So they probably wouldn't lose any of the current players but maybe miss out on potential new ones.

 

[Deleted member 169486]

I personally would prefer if every server simply forced players to use the current version of Minecraft. Pretty much any other game does this and I don't see a reason not to. Mods aren't oficcially supported by cubecraft, they don't even care that optifine is incompatible with their survival games plugin. If mods don't get updated to the newest version that shouldn't be made everyone's problem.

But sadly as it is, people might decide against trying a server because they happen to run an outdated client and don't want to update because tehy can use that on other servers. So they probably wouldn't lose any of the current players but maybe miss out on potential new ones.

This. This right here says it all.

 

[giesko]

It is. This plugin allows 1.4.7+ clients on 1.12.2 servers. Of course they will miss some features, but I think it's acceptable to just show them a placeholder like this and encourage them to update their client if it bothers them.

nooo it would just ruin the whole 1.8 part of the server. 1.8 pvp in 1.9 version is just trash.. on EVERY SERVER is 1.8 pvp in 1.9 TRASH.. cause 1.9 is just trash....

 

[0ffense]

nooo it would just ruin the whole 1.8 part of the server. 1.8 pvp in 1.9 version is just trash.. on EVERY SERVER is 1.8 pvp in 1.9 TRASH.. cause 1.9 is just trash....

Hes has said nothing about changing 1.8 damage, the entire thing is for 1.9.

 

[giesko]

Hes has said nothing about changing 1.8 damage, the entire thing is for 1.9.

no that guy was talking about to be able to join cubecraft in 1.4 and the plugin adds the new features. so that means also 1.8 would change into 1.9+

 

[0ffense]

no that guy was talking about to be able to join cubecraft in 1.4 and the plugin adds the new features. so that means also 1.8 would change into 1.9+

I think it was about the items not the pvp.

 

[MagnificentSpam]

no that guy was talking about to be able to join cubecraft in 1.4 and the plugin adds the new features. so that means also 1.8 would change into 1.9+

The plugin allows 1.4.7 clients, but it's very impractical to play with versions older than 1.9 because of the missing offhand slot. So the minimum required version on the server would have to be at least 1.9.

So this would not directly affect the 1.8 network, but I'd still support removing it entirely to focus on the current version.

 

[Lilleh__]

I personally would prefer if every server simply forced players to use the current version of Minecraft.

Many players would quit if that happened. There are many players who play the game solely for PvP, and quite a few of those who won't go past 1.8.9, even if the cooldown was removed.

nooo it would just ruin the whole 1.8 part of the server. 1.8 pvp in 1.9 version is just trash.. on EVERY SERVER is 1.8 pvp in 1.9 TRASH.. cause 1.9 is just trash....

1.9 isn't rly trash, its just massively different from 1.8, neither for the better or the worse. It just requires a completely different skillset, which many competitive PvPers are infinitely against bc the pace is slower. I wonder how many have tried 1.9 PvP or they're that scared of change. But this is just my opinion. I prefer 1.8 bc of the higher pace but play 1.9+ on Cube bc the 1.8 network has (next to) no games. If you think 1.9 is trash then I'll happily let that be your opinion.