Implemented the diamond generators in map beach - Eggwars

[ItsNinjaa]

(About Team Eggwars Map Beach)
Who decided to create a middle where at one side the diamond gen is lvl 3 and at the other side lvl 2 ?!
It gives one side more advantage than the other side and this makes the game unfair.
It's easy to criticise without giving any solution so here it is :
Reduce the lvl 3 generator to lvl 2 and add another diamond generator lvl 1or lvl 2 at the middle.

 

[💀 Camgames 🎃]

In bedrock they are both level 2, and I don't give a crap about java, so

 

[ItsNinjaa]

I changed it, my bad.
I was told it is the same in bedrock

 

[Amazinq]

I think two dia generators lvl 3 would be too op. Both generators lvl 2 would be worse so idk, I think its not a very unfair disadvantage and it is better to leave it as it is

 

[ItsNinjaa]

I think two dia generators lvl 3 would be too op. Both generators lvl 2 would be worse so idk, I think its not a very unfair disadvantage and it is better to leave it as it is

I advised to add a third Gen in the middle so it doesn't really change the amount of diamonds you get. Read the whole thread next time

 

[Amazinq]

I advised to add a third Gen in the middle so it doesn't really change the amount of diamonds you get. Read the whole thread next time

I had read everything and I do not like the idea since 3 generators are too many so for this reason I thought about level up a generator or level down the other. So i think its better to don't change nothing

 

[ItsHqrvey_]

(About Team Eggwars Map Beach)
Who decided to create a middle where at one side the diamond gen is lvl 3 and at the other side lvl 2 ?!
It gives one side more advantage than the other side and this makes the game unfair.
It's easy to criticise without giving any solution so here it is :
Reduce the lvl 3 generator to lvl 2 and add another diamond generator lvl 1or lvl 2 at the middle.

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i think both side should be have same diamond generator lvl (i guess both side have diamond generator level 3)
if the designer put the diamond generator in middle i guess it maybe very hard to snatch those diamonds with the other side of the enemies.

 

[ItsNinjaa]

I had read everything and I do not like the idea since 3 generators are too many so for this reason I thought about level up a generator or level down the other. So i think its better to don't change nothing

The gameplan in beach is always the same :
"the team that can control mid for the longest wins the game in the end"
This is 9 out of 10 the team who can get the first diamonds in the middle
and since purple and Light blue are closer to the lvl 3 gen, they have full advantage since minute 1.

With a third gen (lvl 1 or 2) the amount of diamonds you can get doesn't really change.
The only other thing that changes is that you have 3 gens to max in long games,
which makes it faster to kill campers.

I don't see disadvantages tbh
(+ every team has the same changes to win the game )

 

[ItsNinjaa]

i think both side should be have same diamond generator lvl (i guess both side have diamond generator level 3)
if the designer put the diamond generator in middle i guess it maybe very hard to snatch those diamonds with the other side of the enemies.

Yes true, that's what I suggested : make the diamond gens at the side equal and add another gen in the middle.

 

[CagriCann]

yeah this idea is great i hope it comes soon :D

 

[Amazinq]

The gameplan in beach is always the same :
"the team that can control mid for the longest wins the game in the end"
This is 9 out of 10 the team who can get the first diamonds in the middle
and since purple and Light blue are closer to the lvl 3 gen, they have full advantage since minute 1.

With a third gen (lvl 1 or 2) the amount of diamonds you can get doesn't really change.
The only other thing that changes is that you have 3 gens to max in long games,
which makes it faster to kill campers.

I don't see disadvantages tbh
(+ every team has the same changes to win the game )

There are lots of maps that other teams can get diamonds faster not only beach.
Anyways, there are two teams that can obtain gold faster so this is another disadvantage
There are lots of unfair things but I think its impossible to make all fair.
I think its just luck and adding a new diamond generator would be stupid, there are teams with a type of disvantages and there are other teams with other type of disvantages.

Currently it isn't too bad, Its better to don't change nothing ;)

 

[Thunder]

there are two teams that can obtain gold faster so this is another disadvantage

Actually you are right in this point. In tryhard matches, the game automatically places the first party on purple and the second party on orange so none of those teams get affected so much although light blue and green do. But purple and light blue have an easier access to the 3rd level generator than other teams. The idea of ninja makes the map simetric. Yes we can't make it %100 fair for all teams but I think it will be more fair if the level of that Diamond Generator gets lowered into 2. With this way, people will get less diamonds from mid in a specific amount of time so there will be more intense fights for diamonds at mid.

add another diamond generator lvl 1or lvl 2 at the middle

I also don't think there is a need for any extra Diamond Generator, the shape of map currently looks nice.

 

[Amazinq]

De hecho, tienes razón en este punto. En los partidos de prueba, el juego coloca automáticamente el primer grupo en púrpura y el segundo en naranja, por lo que ninguno de esos equipos se ve tan afectado, aunque el azul claro y el verde sí lo hacen. Pero el morado y el azul claro tienen un acceso más fácil al generador de tercer nivel que otros equipos. La idea de ninja hace que el mapa sea simétrico. Sí, no podemos hacer que sea% 100 justo para todos los equipos, pero creo que será más justo si el nivel de ese generador de diamantes se reduce a 2. De esta manera, las personas obtendrán menos diamantes a partir de la mitad en un período de tiempo específico. por lo que habrá luchas más intensas por los diamantes a mediados.

Tampoco creo que sea necesario ningún generador de diamantes adicional, la forma del mapa actualmente se ve bien.

Okay but decreasing the level of one generator its a bad idea because games would be longer so idk

 

[ItsNinjaa]

it will be more fair if the level of that Diamond Generator gets lowered into 2. With this way, people will get less diamonds from mid in a specific amount of time so there will be more intense fights for diamonds at mid.

I also don't think there is a need for any extra Diamond Generator, the shape of map currently looks nice.

Yes, I absolutely agree with the first part, but then adding a new generator makes it kinda necessary, because way more teams will really quick realize that it's more beneficial to start grinding for lvl 3 diamond gen at base,
so I'll stick to my idea for now.

 

[iTBD]

I agree with your suggestion, the map needs balancing of the diamond generators!

 

[ItsNinjaa]

yeah this idea is great i hope it comes soon :D

I hope so too :D

I agree with your suggestion, the maps needs balancing of the diamond generators!

surely

 

[Deleted member 576174]

In bedrock they are both level 2, and I don't give a crap about java, so

If you don't care, why voting no?

 

[iTBD]

If you don't care, why voting no?

Because logic xD

 

[ItsNinjaa]

Because logic xD

The bedrock community Shaking my head xD

 

[Snowy54]

I agree with the point of xAmazinq.