2 New Rules: Hackusating and Mockery

[Deleted member 59979]

Im suggestion we create 2 rules on mockery (making fun of someone) and hackusating. Im saying that we make both of these against the rules. Both rules will require a warning before being able to report but hackusating will have the same punishments as spamming as they are the same thing, however mockery will follow a similar punishment to bullying.

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

Feel free to constructively critise my idea although dont make fun of my name etc.

 

[Harvard University]

Im suggestion we create 2 rules on mockery (making fun of someone) and hackusating. Im saying that we make both of these against the rules. Both rules will require a warning before being able to report but hackusating will have the same punishments as spamming as they are the same thing, however mockery will follow a similar punishment to bullying.

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

Feel free to constructively critise my idea although dont make fun of my name etc.

If someone is hacking and u say it in chat some peeps are starting there recording software to record him and report him

 

[Deleted member 59979]

If someone is hacking and u say it in chat some peeps are starting there recording software to record him and report him

Im not saying about people calling people out for actually hacking. If you read it you can see that I explain how if a player is actually hacking its fine.

 

[Deleted member 352903]

I am not agree with 1st one. Lots of people don't know how to 1.9pvp and they call hacker to every player who knows how to 1.9pvp. It would be so chaotic...

 

[Deleted member 377664]

Possible, but I think that it's good enough for now

 

[Gainfullterror]

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

Here's the thing:

This would be fine if the player is actually hacking

If someone bothers hackusating, then they think somoene is hacking. So, according to your description, it would only be allowed if the person is actually hacking.
The problem lies in the accuracy of hackusations. Players could be convinced someone is hacking for sure, regardless of whether it's true or not. It's not that they could be lying, but rather that they may be unknowingly incorrect.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

All of what you have described can be categorized in "bullying", which is an option you can report for on the site. It already exists.

 

[TriangleAttack]

What if you aren't sure someone is hacking but wanted to warn others?
MUTED
Doesn't seem too fair.

 

[Eli]

Im suggestion we create 2 rules on mockery (making fun of someone) and hackusating. Im saying that we make both of these against the rules. Both rules will require a warning before being able to report but hackusating will have the same punishments as spamming as they are the same thing, however mockery will follow a similar punishment to bullying.

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

Feel free to constructively critise my idea although dont make fun of my name etc.

I do not agree with any, first of all most people do not know how to recognIze a hacker, only people who are prepared like staff know how to recognize a hacker properly.
So it would be like muting someone for not knowing something, not fair.
But maybe what you mean is when the players loose to you and call you hacker (Even though they know you're not hacking, they're just mad), well there's nothing to do against that, I don't think there's a way to provide evidence enough to show that someone called hacks because of anger.
And your second suggestion, as many people have already said, what is described on your thread is called bullying.

 

[Deeds]

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

No I like hackusating people.
I usually just take it as a compliment, as should you.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

 

[Despacito 2]

PEOPLE WHO GET EASILY OFFENDED SHOULDN'T BE ON THE INTERNET. TURN OFF YOUR CHAT AND DON'T WHINE.

Besides what's wrong with someone thinking that you are cheating? I see it as a reward for my hard work for winning a game of Skywars.

I do not agree with any, first of all most people do not know how to recognIze a hacker, only people who are prepared like staff know how to recognize a hacker.

Just do reports for 2 months and you'll exactly know how to recognize a hacker.

 

[Thefty]

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

Useless suggestion, nothing bad about it. And if they spam then just report them under spamming, duh.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

Again, useless suggestion as this is basically under "bullying", so I have no idea why you even bothered writing this.

All in all pretty bad suggestions in my honest opinion.

 

[LoadzAF]

The thing about both is that its actually hard to detect if someone is making fun if someone as i could just make up any excuse to mute someone and i fully disagree with the hackusating one because calling hacks is normal and no one rly knows if you hack or just lag etc etc

 

[Deleted member 59979]

The thing about both is that its actually hard to detect if someone is making fun if someone as i could just make up any excuse to mute someone and i fully disagree with the hackusating one because calling hacks is normal and no one rly knows if you hack or just lag etc etc

Well I agree with your first statement. I agree that its hard to detect if someone is making fun or just made up an excuse. However I disagree with your statement on hackusating. It is quite easy to tell if someone is hacking or not. And people dont just call it because they see people lagging. I see about 1 person a game call someone a hacker just because they died.

 

[Blocky]

Just ignore hackusating people. You know that it's not true what they say (if you don't hack ofcourse)

 

[Story]

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

It is quite easy to tell if someone is hacking or not.

This will never be a thing and here's why; due to the 1.9 mechanics, the hacked clients are incredibly hard to detect if they are not using the most obvious ones, you seem to think that if the client isn't obvious then they aren't cheating. It's not a case of if their client is on or off, 100% or 0%. They CAN tone them down, change distances and toggle, some people only use reach, so its not easy Adding a rule where I have to check every single time someone calls hacks to see if they are lying is inefficient and pointless.

You also write:

Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.

Why is 'less false accusations' an advantage? they have to write the false accusation for me to deem it a false accusation, so its there either way. Also we have a rule to reduce spam, it's called 'spamming'.

Mocking:
This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.

So why is it required? why do you need a form of it when it's the same thing and fall under the same punishment?

 

[AFreakingCookie (Hank)]

Im suggestion we create 2 rules on mockery (making fun of someone) and hackusating. Im saying that we make both of these against the rules. Both rules will require a warning before being able to report but hackusating will have the same punishments as spamming as they are the same thing, however mockery will follow a similar punishment to bullying.

Hackusating:
Hackusating is when you are accusing a player of hacking or another offense falsely. This could be encouraging people to report a player or simply claiming hacks when you die. This would be fine if the player is actually hacking however if they are not then it is just useless spam. This would follow the exact same rules as spamming as they are very similar. They could even incorporate it into the spamming rule.
Advantages: Less false accusations. Less spam.
Disadvantages: Staff will have to deal with far more reports.

Mocking:
Mocking is when you take something about a player or something a player did/said and make fun of it. This could be anything like name calling, or making fun of someones spelling or poor english. This is a rule I personally relate to as I have had my name made fun off too many times and when I found out they just let people do that I was pretty annoyed. This rule would follow a similar punishment to bullying as it is essentially a form of it.
Advantages: Players will feel more comfortable and happier knowing people will not be making fun of them. There will also be less people being made fun off.
Disadvantages: What can be defined as mockery could easily be complicated and there is a higher chance of being muted when the situation was misunderstood.

Feel free to constructively critise my idea although dont make fun of my name etc.

Nah. I don't think this is needed at all. Hackusating will be a thing and there is nothing we can really do about it that would be fair. Same with mocking.

 

[_The13thDoctor_]

GUYS I GOT AN IDEA FOR THE FIRST ONE!

The chat filter could block the words revolving around hacks and hax and make say:

Please report cheaters here: https://reports.cubecraft.net
If you need a recording device: OBS or ScreenCast O' Matic
Thank You.

2nd One I SO AGREE.

Being toxic and rude in general deserves mutes.

 

[TriangleAttack]

Being toxic and rude in general deserves mutes.

That's why there is a section in reports for bullying...

 

[_The13thDoctor_]

That's why there is a section in reports for bullying...

Sometimes it's not "bad enough" -_-

 

[TriangleAttack]

Sometimes it's not "bad enough" -_-

Then why report it?
If it can't be dealt with by staff it probably isn't that severe,