Implemented Agreed Reaction On Posts

[xHappyMood]

When you make a thread, you don’t always add a poll. This might be because of your personal preference or because you don’t think it’s necessary. However, this causes a lot of people to make unnecessary comments like “I agree +1”. Now this is not really a good thing. Firstly, it goes to the direction of message farming, and secondly it makes the actually good points get split up with these useless posts in between.

It seems silly to make it obligatory to add a poll, so I don’t propose doing that. What you could do, is add an extra possible reaction called “Agreed”, and like this you could show that you agree. You might say that you can use the like reaction for that, but the like reaction has many purposes. I personally often use it to show that I have read something, and it doesn’t necessarily mean that I agree. (I don’t know if it’s possible to do this with XenForo though).

This would cause a lot less useless messages, which is a good thing, and you could start considering “Agreed +1” type of messages as message farming and punish accordingly.

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Let me know what you think by voting on the poll, and if you vote no, I’d appreciate it if you explain why you did so.

 

[Maaarijn]

I don't agree. Adding a poll is easy enough. Also reactions like 'agreed' or '+1' still bump the thread and show a positive reaction, which is not a bad thing. I like to type long feedback messages, but for some suggestions just the words 'I agree' are enough.

 

[xHappyMood]

Adding a poll is easy enough.

It is, yet some people don’t want to/don’t do it.

Also reactions like 'agreed' or '+1' still bump the thread

If you want a thread to be bumped, just bump it.

show a positive reaction

The “Agreed” reaction would too.

which is not a bad thing.

That is not a bad thing on itself, but it does seem like message farming as you get an extra message, without a lot of use.
It is also not a good thing that the actually useful comments get separated from each other by the useless comments in between them.

I like to type long feedback messages, but for some suggestions just the words 'I agree' are enough.

The “Agreed” reaction would do exactly the same as the words “I agree” but without all the downsides.

As an extra advantage, the “Agreed” reaction would also be easier to count. You could just look at how many of those you received instead of having to count every single “+1” message.

 

[Maaarijn]

It is, yet some people don’t want to/don’t do it.

Why would you not want to add a poll? Some people forget it but most of the time someone will ask them to add a poll.

If you want a thread to be bumped, just bump it.

Yes, but if a thread did not recieve any reactions it looks like nobody really agrees with it. If it has 3 reactions like 'Nice thread' or 'I agree' they don't add anything useful, but it immediately makes the thread seem a lot more liked and active which motivates others to react to it as well.

The “Agreed” reaction would too.

True but I explained the difference ^

That is not a bad thing on itself, but it does seem like message farming as you get an extra message, without a lot of use.
It is also not a good thing that the actually useful comments get separated from each other by the useless comments in between them.

Of course some people would do this to farm a message and like, but it is actually useful for the thread(owner) itself, meaning that the impact it has isn't bad.
I don't agree that the useful feedback gets overlooked because of the 'agreed' reactions. The useful reactions are often a lot longer and catch the eye easier. Also if you really care about the subject you would read them anyway. I don't see an issue here.

The “Agreed” reaction would do exactly the same as the words “I agree” but without all the downsides.

If it bumps the thread as well I think this could be a good idea, apart from that it adds nothing but helping a tiny bit against message farming.

Of course, if someone keeps adding useless 'I agree' messages to threads it's message farming and maybe it should be punished for harder. But adding 'I agree' to a thread every now and then is not a bad thing at all. I don't see much need for this idea to be added, sorry!

 

[ItzEnd3r]

I completely agree with this. Sure you could just say "Agree" or "+1" but that does nothing to benefit the thread. on top of this they can make it so agree (and maybe disagree) reactions dont affect your Reaction score, this would also prevent people from avoiding polls so that likes are the main form of agreeing with a post (I have seen this a lot where people refuse to put a poll and tell you to like the post instead). An addition like this would clean up the forums and reduce message/like farming. So this is a big +1 from me.

 

[xHappyMood]

Why would you not want to add a poll? Some people forget it but most of the time someone will ask them to add a poll.

Idk, ask people who don’t want to, there are plenty.

Yes, but if a thread did not recieve any reactions it looks like nobody really agrees with it. If it has 3 reactions like 'Nice thread' or 'I agree' they don't add anything useful, but it immediately makes the thread seem a lot more liked and active which motivates others to react to it as well.

Why would you not answer to a thread that hasn’t been answered to yet? You can easily see the “Agreed” reactions as well.

but it is actually useful for the thread(owner) itself, meaning that the impact it has isn't bad.

It really isn’t imo.

I don't agree that the useful feedback gets overlooked because of the 'agreed' reactions. The useful reactions are often a lot longer and catch the eye easier. Also if you really care about the subject you would read them anyway. I don't see an issue here.

You have to scroll through all the useless reactions. This would just make it easier to immediately find the useful posts.

 

[Technosword]

I didn’t read the replies as I’m a bit busy right now, but in my mind: Liking the post is a +1/agreed

 

[xHappyMood]

I didn’t read the replies as I’m a bit busy right now, but in my mind: Liking the post is a +1/agreed

I also like when I don't agree but am just going to reply though.

 

[Wauterrr]

I agree +1

 

[Story]

I'm sort of against this mainly because I think it's too easy to just click a button rather than share why you agree or disagree, whilst it does cause message farming sometimes- it also does the opposite by forcing people to write reasons as well.

Without actual data on who does what for what reason we can't really know for certain if this would help or not.

 

[InkAsriel]

not only does this prevent message farming, it also keeps the actual important discussions/feedback up and visible. its annoying to have 10 messages of "i agree, +1" without any context, and even in suggestions with a poll it still happens. its also a pain to see you have 5 notifications, and all of them being these short useless messages that wont really add much.
why does someone like an idea? what could be done different? in stead of just saying agree of disagree, people should try and add arguments to why they say things. i thought we all learned this in school at a young age, didnt we?

 

[ItzEnd3r]

I didn’t read the replies as I’m a bit busy right now, but in my mind: Liking the post is a +1/agreed

exactly this is the problem, some people use it as a way to like farm by refusing to put a poll and just saying like it if you agree

 

[Technosword]

exactly this is the problem, some people use it as a way to like farm by refusing to put a poll and just saying like it if you agree

This wouldn’t solve it, because then you’re FORCING people to react to your post instead of not liking and replying that you agree...

 

[wxzzrd]

I don't agree. Adding a poll is easy enough. Also reactions like 'agreed' or '+1' still bump the thread and show a positive reaction, which is not a bad thing. I like to type long feedback messages, but for some suggestions just the words 'I agree' are enough.

Yes I understand, but people (including me) get banned for message farming by doing that kind of stuff

 

[Finixly]

Yes I understand, but people (including me) get banned for message farming by doing that kind of stuff

That's rather your falt than the way how the forums works

 

[wxzzrd]

That's rather your falt than the way how the forums works

No I was saying that because marijn said that it was ok to do that and it’s not, it’s message farming

 

[Finixly]

No I was saying that because marijn said that it was ok to do that and it’s not, it’s message farming

Just saying ''+1'' shouldn't be something we punish for as far as I know

 

[wxzzrd]

Just saying ''+1'' shouldn't be something we punish for as far as I know

It is though , it’s considered message farming especially if you do it 2 or 3 times

 

[xHappyMood]

I'm sort of against this mainly because I think it's too easy to just click a button rather than share why you agree or disagree

A lot of people don’t explain why they agree/disagree anyways.

whilst it does cause message farming sometimes- it also does the opposite by forcing people to write reasons as well.

It doesn’t force people to, a lot of people still don’t give reasons. You could say the same about voting in a poll, as you just click a button there as well. A lot of people also still leave this kind of messages even when there is a poll.

Without actual data on who does what for what reason we can't really know for certain if this would help or not.

We can always try...

This wouldn’t solve it, because then you’re FORCING people to react to your post instead of not liking and replying that you agree...

I believe Ender wanted that it wouldn’t give you reaction score.

 

[Younisco]

Hey xHappyMood, thanks for the suggestion ^-^

I'm currently experimenting with what sort of custom reactions we're able to add. This includes reactions specific to a subforum, for example, you can react with the emoji only in the "News" subforum.

I reckon something like this could be experimented with and we can assess how useful it really is.