Java AntiCheat and the impossible gameplay

[SuperCheese_]

Please improve the anticheat as it is already becoming impossible to play modalities such as Skywars, Eggwars and others, thanks.


I'm sorry if I wrote something wrong ... I'm learning English xD



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[Fedde2001]

The anticheat is being improved, they just don't announce the updates.

 

[nnce]

I hate it when people say "they are improving the anticheat" or "report players". 1st off yes they may be improving the anticheat but sentinel has been pretty much the same in the last few months (1.12 sentinel is broken af when compared to 1.8 sentinel). 2nd reporting players is a waste of time because most hackers have alts and a vpn, the only exception to this is if you have access to /report because it takes a few seconds to report and most of the time the hacker will get banned in a few minutes to a few hours from /report. If you report hackers on reports.cubecraft.net it takes like an hour to just make a report because you have to record, upload it to YouTube, and fill out all the info and reports take FOREVER to be looked at (from days to weeks) and even then the hackers may have been already banned by staff or sentinel

 

[Starry]

You shouldn't be relying on an anti-cheat to ban players on a server, after all. Anti-Cheats are basically banning bots, so they can detect false-positives. Not one anti-cheat on a minecraft server is perfect. Also, improving an anticheat is not a one-day work.

Sentinel is always being improved and put up to date to counter all the new clients.

If a player appeals and they have been falsely banned by the anti-cheat,they would almost basically be getting a ‘free’ unban*. (No in all cases)

 

[Fedde2001]

I hate it when people say "they are improving the anticheat" or "report players". 1st off yes they may be improving the anticheat but sentinel has been pretty much the same in the last few months (1.12 sentinel is broken af when compared to 1.8 sentinel). 2nd reporting players is a waste of time because most hackers have alts and a vpn, the only exception to this is if you have access to /report because it takes a few seconds to report and most of the time the hacker will get banned in a few minutes to a few hours from /report. If you report hackers on reports.cubecraft.net it takes like an hour to just make a report because you have to record, upload it to YouTube, and fill out all the info and reports take FOREVER to be looked at (from days to weeks) and even then the hackers may have been already banned by staff or sentinel

And I dont like it when people say these kinds off things ^

From what I can see, Sentinel is definitely improved the last few months, first it did nearly banned any hackers at all (at least there was almost never a message) atm, I see a lot off banmessages from players who have been banned by Sentinel.

Second, if you use /report when the server and their staff is bussy it happends a lot that they just dont have the time to look at /reports because that is for catching hackers 'live' so you do not have any garuantee they will be baned.
If you use reports.cubecraft.net there is evidence for a pretty while, even after a week not being online the hacker will still be banned (if the video is clear enough)

And I tried to tell this lots of people, but a record only has to last 30 seconds to have pretty clear evidence for a punishment… 30 seconds uploading can not take an hour, and typing the name and the offence need to be in the /report already so you only have to add the YouTube link and (if its a long video) a timestamp.

Even if you dont have great internet connection and not the best pc this might be 15/30 mins maximum.

 

[nnce]

You shouldn't be relying on an anti-cheat to ban players on a server, after all. Anti-Cheats are basically banning bots, so they can detect false-positives. Not one anti-cheat on a minecraft server is perfect. Also, improving an anticheat is not a one-day work.

Sentinel is always being improved and put up to date to counter all the new clients.

If a player appeals and they have been falsely banned by the anti-cheat,they would almost basically be getting a ‘free’ unban*. (No in all cases)

Did I say it takes one day to improve an anticheat? some anticheats are bots, but sentinel is not a bot. using killaura bots is such a bad idea because every single client has antibot. Hacked client devs are becoming way better at finding exploits and bypasses and this is the reason why sentinel can't detect some clients

 

[Fedde2001]

Hacked client devs are becoming way better at finding exploits and bypasses and this is the reason why sentinel can't detect some clients

This is the exact reason why it would not be possible to get the anti-cheat most efficiënt

 

[nnce]

This is the exact reason why it would not be possible to get the anti-cheat most efficiënt

honestly I think that hacked client developers will win at the end and loony will stop developing sentinel eventually

 

[nnce]

Second, if you use /report when the server and their staff is bussy it happends a lot that they just dont have the time to look at /reports because that is for catching hackers 'live' so you do not have any garuantee they will be baned.
If you use reports.cubecraft.net there is evidence for a pretty while, even after a week not being online the hacker will still be banned (if the video is clear enough)

You basically proved that reporting hackers is a waste of time

 

[Fedde2001]

You basically proved that reporting hackers is a waste of time

I did not?

I told you that if you have the choice between recording and using /report I'd prefer recording (And sometimes also /reporting to hope there is staff who has time)
Because if you have a clear record you are a 100% sure the hacker will be banned eventually, maybe not the same hour, not the same day but getting him/her banned is for sure then.

If you use /report you can not be sure the hacker will be banned before staff has the time to spectate them.

 

[nnce]

I did not?

I told you that if you have the choice between recording and using /report I'd prefer recording (And sometimes also /reporting to hope there is staff who has time)
Because if you have a clear record you are a 100% sure the hacker will be banned eventually, maybe not the same hour, not the same day but getting him/her banned is for sure then.

If you use /report you can not be sure the hacker will be banned before staff has the time to spectate them.

But the thing is, hackers have alts and vpn so its pointless

 

[Fedde2001]

But the thing is, hackers have alts and vpn so its pointless

They might, but certainly not all of them have.

And doing nothing is even more pointless :/
Lets hope it will stop sometimes soon