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I played a lot of Tower defense and was actually incredibly good. I have 500+ wins and have since stopped playing due to other players. I realize that most players just starting off don't know what towers to place or how to do so. I felt that there was no basic tips, existing guides are too in detail for new players and confuse them. The basic things you need to know are the following. Only one mage is needed every 20 blocks or so. Once the mob is set on fire it can't be anymore on fire then it already is. Ice also has the same rule, the mob can't be any slower then it is already. It has the same effect with one tower as it does with 15. Poison also abides by that rule, one every 20 or so blocks. So to recap, only place one mage, ice, and poison every 20 blocks. (20 is a rough estimate) There is a lot more to know when playing, but that is a basic rule. If you do play Tower Defense I highly recommend you keep chat on. It is a fast, team based game and communication is key. If you see someone in game "mage stacking" try to teach them otherwise, before resorting to vote kick. I will translate this below into Dutch and Spanish, to avoid having a language barrier. Because often that is what causes problems. Have fun and good luck.

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Ik speelde veel van tower defense en was eigenlijk ongelooflijk goed. Ik heb 500+ wint en hebben sindsdien gestopt met spelen als gevolg van andere spelers. Ik realiseer me dat de meeste spelers gewoon wegrijden weet niet wat torens te plaatsen of hoe dit te doen. Ik voelde dat er geen fundamentele tips, bestaande gidsen zijn ook in detail voor nieuwe spelers en verwarren hen. De fundamentele dingen die je moet weten zijn de volgende. Slechts één mage is nodig om de 20 straten of zo. Zodra de mob wordt in brand gestoken het kan niet meer op het vuur dan het al is. Ice heeft ook dezelfde regel, kan het niet langzamer. Het heeft hetzelfde effect met een toren als met 15. Poison houdt zich ook door die regel, één om de 20 of zo blokken. Dus om samen te vatten, maar plaatst een mage, ijs, en vergif elke 20 blokken. (20 is een ruwe schatting) Er is veel meer te weten wanneer het spelen, maar dat is een basisregel. Als je speelt Tower Defense ik beveel je blijft chatten op. Het is een snelle, team-based spel en communicatie is de sleutel. Als je iemand in het spel "mage stapelen" proberen om ze op een andere manier te leren, voordat toevlucht te nemen tot kick stemmen. Ik zal dit hieronder te vertalen in het Nederlands en het Spaans, om te voorkomen dat een taalbarrière. Want vaak dat is wat problemen veroorzaakt. Veel plezier en succes.

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He jugado un montón de defensa de la torre y en realidad era increíblemente bueno. Tengo más de 500 victorias y desde entonces he dejado de jugar debido a otros jugadores. Me doy cuenta de que la mayoría de los jugadores que empiezan no saben qué torres colocar o cómo hacerlo. Sentí que no había consejos básicos, guías existentes son demasiado detallado para los nuevos jugadores y confundirlos. Las cosas básicas que usted necesita saber son las siguientes. Sólo se necesita un mago cada 20 cuadras. Una vez que la muchedumbre se pone en el fuego que no puede ser más en el fuego entonces él es ya. El hielo también tiene la misma regla, no puede ser más lento. Tiene el mismo efecto con una torre que con 15. El veneno también se atiene a esa regla, una cada 20 bloques o así. Así que para recapitular, sólo colocar un mago, hielo y veneno cada 20 cuadras. (20 es una estimación aproximada) Hay mucho más que saber cuando se juega, pero esa es una regla básica. Si juegas Tower Defense te recomiendo que sigas chateando. Es un juego rápido basado en equipos y la comunicación es clave. Si ves a alguien en el juego "mago apilado" tratar de enseñarles de otra manera, antes de recurrir a votar patada. Voy a traducir esto a continuación en neerlandés y español, para evitar tener una barrera del idioma. Porque a menudo eso es lo que causa problemas. Diviértete y buena suerte.
 

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I played a lot of Tower defense and was actually incredibly good. I have 500+ wins and have since stopped playing due to other players. I realize that most players just starting off don't know what towers to place or how to do so. I felt that there was no basic tips, existing guides are too in detail for new players and confuse them. The basic things you need to know are the following. Only one mage is needed every 20 blocks or so. Once the mob is set on fire it can't be anymore on fire then it already is. Ice also has the same rule, the mob can't be any slower then it is already. It has the same effect with one tower as it does with 15. Poison also abides by that rule, one every 20 or so blocks. So to recap, only place one mage, ice, and poison every 20 blocks. (20 is a rough estimate) There is a lot more to know when playing, but that is a basic rule. If you do play Tower Defense I highly recommend you keep chat on. It is a fast, team based game and communication is key. If you see someone in game "mage stacking" try to teach them otherwise, before resorting to vote kick. I will translate this below into Dutch and Spanish, to avoid having a language barrier. Because often that is what causes problems. Have fun and good luck.

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Ik speelde veel van tower defense en was eigenlijk ongelooflijk goed. Ik heb 500+ wint en hebben sindsdien gestopt met spelen als gevolg van andere spelers. Ik realiseer me dat de meeste spelers gewoon wegrijden weet niet wat torens te plaatsen of hoe dit te doen. Ik voelde dat er geen fundamentele tips, bestaande gidsen zijn ook in detail voor nieuwe spelers en verwarren hen. De fundamentele dingen die je moet weten zijn de volgende. Slechts één mage is nodig om de 20 straten of zo. Zodra de mob wordt in brand gestoken het kan niet meer op het vuur dan het al is. Ice heeft ook dezelfde regel, kan het niet langzamer. Het heeft hetzelfde effect met een toren als met 15. Poison houdt zich ook door die regel, één om de 20 of zo blokken. Dus om samen te vatten, maar plaatst een mage, ijs, en vergif elke 20 blokken. (20 is een ruwe schatting) Er is veel meer te weten wanneer het spelen, maar dat is een basisregel. Als je speelt Tower Defense ik beveel je blijft chatten op. Het is een snelle, team-based spel en communicatie is de sleutel. Als je iemand in het spel "mage stapelen" proberen om ze op een andere manier te leren, voordat toevlucht te nemen tot kick stemmen. Ik zal dit hieronder te vertalen in het Nederlands en het Spaans, om te voorkomen dat een taalbarrière. Want vaak dat is wat problemen veroorzaakt. Veel plezier en succes.

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He jugado un montón de defensa de la torre y en realidad era increíblemente bueno. Tengo más de 500 victorias y desde entonces he dejado de jugar debido a otros jugadores. Me doy cuenta de que la mayoría de los jugadores que empiezan no saben qué torres colocar o cómo hacerlo. Sentí que no había consejos básicos, guías existentes son demasiado detallado para los nuevos jugadores y confundirlos. Las cosas básicas que usted necesita saber son las siguientes. Sólo se necesita un mago cada 20 cuadras. Una vez que la muchedumbre se pone en el fuego que no puede ser más en el fuego entonces él es ya. El hielo también tiene la misma regla, no puede ser más lento. Tiene el mismo efecto con una torre que con 15. El veneno también se atiene a esa regla, una cada 20 bloques o así. Así que para recapitular, sólo colocar un mago, hielo y veneno cada 20 cuadras. (20 es una estimación aproximada) Hay mucho más que saber cuando se juega, pero esa es una regla básica. Si juegas Tower Defense te recomiendo que sigas chateando. Es un juego rápido basado en equipos y la comunicación es clave. Si ves a alguien en el juego "mago apilado" tratar de enseñarles de otra manera, antes de recurrir a votar patada. Voy a traducir esto a continuación en neerlandés y español, para evitar tener una barrera del idioma. Porque a menudo eso es lo que causa problemas. Diviértete y buena suerte.
Great guide, I think it will help a lot of players!
 
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Unfortunately, I don't think any of the people who made/ice stack are on the forums. :/
But I think this would be great to have at the start of the game. Like if they had the title command say "Please do not make/ice/poison stack. It is useless" so everyone will know.
 

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Unfortunately, I don't think any of the people who made/ice stack are on the forums. :/
But I think this would be great to have at the start of the game. Like if they had the title command say "Please do not make/ice/poison stack. It is useless" so everyone will know.
Ya! I'm just hoping this will be helpful to people who are going for Egg Wars to Tower Defense, but I completely understand what you mean!
 

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There's already a basic guide that talks about stacking here: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/tower-defence-tower-information.96571/
It's literally pinned at the top of this section of the forums. My question is how did you miss it? If players don't read something posted by staff then why would they bother reading this thread either? As TheBrownster904 has just added most players that stack don't read the forums anyways.
see what you mean and yes, there is a staff made guide already. I just made this not to say their's isn't good or doesn't help. But to help anyone who needs it. The staff here is great! It's really good that they made a guide! I'm just trying to help, the game is fun what everyone plays correctly and if they see a statement several times they are more likely to believe it. Most people the stack mage are from others games on Cubecraft and simply don't know!
 
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Is it just me or are there no games where players don't mage stack? I think of my matches tonight and yesterday there were ABSOLUTELY none. Worse yet there's a votekick system that requires everyone's vote. You can have a good four players with communication but a player that doesn't reply and a player that stacks just kills the game. Talk about a combo. I'm not about to try to report every player that stacks as it would be RIDICULOUS. I would end up being the most hated hall monitor on all of Cubecraft.
 

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Is it just me or are there no games where players don't mage stack? I think of my matches tonight and yesterday there were ABSOLUTELY none. Worse yet there's a votekick system that requires everyone's vote. You can have a good four players with communication but a player that doesn't reply and a player that stacks just kills the game. Talk about a combo. I'm not about to try to report every player that stacks as it would be RIDICULOUS. I would end up being the most hated hall monitor on all of Cubecraft.
You're not alone. Out of the 100+ or so games I've played (with randoms), only 1 or 2 have games where my teammates are smart enough not to mage stack. Another 1-2 games will have stackers but will remove their stacked mages when reminded to. Reminding them will not likely get them to stop since they don't trust others and they think stacking "helps." All other games I've played had uncooperative stackers. Your only chance to find a game without any mage stacking at all is to join an organized team.

Agreed on votekicking. I'd say make the votekick easier by having a supermajority vote (2/3 at least).
 
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You're not alone. Out of the 100+ or so games I've played (with randoms), only 1 or 2 have games where my teammates are smart enough not to mage stack. Another 1-2 games will have stackers but will remove their stacked mages when reminded to. Reminding them will not likely get them to stop since they don't trust others and they think stacking "helps." All other games I've played had uncooperative stackers. Your only chance to find a game without any mage stacking at all is to join an organized team.

Agreed on votekicking. I'd say make the votekick easier by having a supermajority vote (2/3 at least).

An organized team? Seriously you made me laugh on that one. I've just posted on another thread talking about this matter as well. Playing this competitively is a joke. With stackers this common I'd be surprised to see even a small group play this together but let's not forget the no party system! I'd like to see real matches. Matches where teams are neck and neck and only the better of the two make it. Now that's gaming. Organized teams though that one was funny. You sure know how to give a good time. xD
 
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An organized team? Seriously you made me laugh on that one. I've just posted on another thread talking about this matter as well. Playing this competitively is a joke. With stackers this common I'd be surprised to see even a small group play this together but let's not forget the no party system! I'd like to see real matches. Matches where teams are neck and neck and only the better of the two make it. Now that's gaming. Organized teams though that one was funny. You sure know how to give a good time. xD
I actually have a replay of 2 organized teams playing against each other in TD on this server. I'll share it later though.
 
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I actually have a replay of 2 organized teams playing against each other in TD on this server. I'll share it later though.

No kidding! Question is how do I join? How do you guys avoid bad teammates? I'd really like to know. These guys that stack are killing me. Please you gotta help me here I'm desperate.
 

betty's oldies

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No kidding! Question is how do I join? How do you guys avoid bad teammates? I'd really like to know. These guys that stack are killing me. Please you gotta help me here I'm desperate.
First, you need at least 1 friend who knows not to make the most common mistakes (e.g. mage stacking, out of grid placement, buying sword/bow) and knows how to play. You don't need much for a 2-man team. The game is best played at early morning server time (so about 5-8AM GMT) if you don't want to play with too many random players.

Most difficult is getting the right lobby. So if it's just you and your friend, you may have to keep trying until you get a game with just you 2 against 2-3 randoms. The game will be tougher than usual but if you both can handle it, you'll have a fun time than you will in usual games.

As for the bigger team: you will have to keep looking as much as possible. Look for good players (observe what they do in-game).

EDIT: Here's the replay showing a 6v6 (I'm in red). 2 organized teams play against each other:
 
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First, you need at least 1 friend who knows not to make the most common mistakes (e.g. mage stacking, out of grid placement, buying sword/bow) and knows how to play. You don't need much for a 2-man team. The game is best played at early morning server time (so about 5-8AM GMT) if you don't want to play with too many random players.

Most difficult is getting the right lobby. So if it's just you and your friend, you may have to keep trying until you get a game with just you 2 against 2-3 randoms. The game will be tougher than usual but if you both can handle it, you'll have a fun time than you will in usual games.

As for the bigger team: you will have to keep looking as much as possible. Look for good players (observe what they do in-game).

EDIT: Here's the replay showing a 6v6 (I'm in red). 2 organized teams play against each other:

That was a great match. Hypixel's SkyClash Leaderboard players came and challenged us. We had 3 matches with them and each one was fantastic. We won each one of the matches 200 to 0 at the end, but their offense was truly spectacular. I've seen around 100 some blazes sent in 3 different matches now and one of them was against them.
 
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