Bedrock Changes I'd like to see to the knockback

[SlinkyGnu05604]

A few days ago, I started to notice that the knockback is different. It was so much better in my opinion but some people disagree. Today, the knockback got reverted which I disagree with. Before I talk about what I want to change in the knockback system, I'll list the advantages and disadvantages of both knockback systems.

Advantages of old knockback:

• Easy to pick up on, doesn’t need a lot of practice
• Doesn’t favor people with high cps or low ping; balanced for everyone
• Allows you to land critical hits and strafe easier
• Faster paced fights
• Easier to win 2v1s

Disadvantage of old knockback: Can be difficult to knock people off, especially stacked players

Advantages of current knockback:

• Easier to knock off stacked players
• Satisfying combos

Disadvantages of current knockback:

• Harder for new players to get used to
• Favors players with high CPS and low ping and not people who can strafe, makes it difficult to fight back when comboed
• Makes landing crits not worth it (and difficult) due to the vertical knockback
• Slower paced fights (depending on the person)
• Makes it harder to win fights if 2 or more people are fighting you, same for escaping
• Harder to beat hackers

What I would like to see changed:

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

The reason I would like to see those changes is to create a balance in the PvP mechanics that will appeal to both sides of the community who prefer the old and the new knockback. If executed correctly, there will be more ways to fight the enemy and not just combo them, like strafing will be made easier, crits will be easier to land and not worthless, and combos will be way more satisfying in my opinion and will make it easier to knock off a stacked player, as well as speeding up games.

Do you agree? If you have different solutions, comment them below

Edit: What knockback used to look like a few days ago
Edit 2: I would like to see a knockback test for this to get more feedback, since not everyone experienced this kind of knockback shown in the video through the hyperlink

 

[N00bYeeter]

I would love a kb that is less combo based. I see a lot of people using autoclickers now, because it makes a giant difference. Its also really hard to do 1v2 3 or 4 whereas before it was very possible.

 

[ENDERIUM]

At least I won't be yeeted five minutes across the map.

 

[AlexTheNG]

A few days ago, I started to notice that the knockback is different. It was so much better in my opinion but some people disagree. Today, the knockback got reverted which I disagree with. Before I talk about what I want to change in the knockback system, I'll list the advantages and disadvantages of both knockback systems.

Advantage of old knockback:

• Easy to pick up on, doesn’t need a lot of practice
• Doesn’t favor people with high cps or low ping; balanced for everyone
• Allows you to land critical hits and strafe easier
• Faster paced fights
• Easier to win 2v1s

Disadvantage of old knockback: Can be difficult to knock people off, especially stacked players

Advantages of current knockback:

• Easier to knock off stacked players
• Satisfying combos

Disadvantages of current knockback:

• Harder for new players to get used to
• Favors players with high CPS and low ping and not people who can strafe, makes it difficult to fight back when comboed
• Makes landing crits not worth it (and difficult) due to the vertical knockback
• Slower paced fights (depending on the person)
• Makes it harder to win fights if 2 or more people are fighting you, same for escaping

What I would like to see changed:

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

The reason I would like to see those changes is to create a balance in the PvP mechanics that will appeal to both sides of the community who prefer the old and the new knockback. If executed correctly, there will be more ways to fight the enemy and not just combo them, like strafing will be made easier, crits will be easier to land and not worthless, and combos will be way more satisfying in my opinion and will make it easier to knock off a stacked player, as well as speeding up games.

Do you agree? If you have different solutions, comment them below

Edit: What knockback used to look like

bruh the current kb isn't that awful. I've been practicing to get used to it for probably around 9 months.

 

[RelatedNoobs]

I don’t quite understand. I don’t remember the knockback being tweaked recently?

 

[SlinkyGnu05604]

I don’t quite understand. I don’t remember the knockback being tweaked recently?

For the past few days, yeah it was like in the video from the hyperlink. It got reverted. Some people didn’t play in those days so they didn’t notice it

 

[AM71113363]

What I would like to see changed:

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

I Agree.
NOTE:
I would prefer a vertical kb near to 0 (ofcourse not 0).

 

[SlinkyGnu05604]

I Agree.
NOTE:
I would prefer a vertical kb near to 0 (ofcourse not 0).

That’s the goal, to reduce the vertical knockback, not remove it entirely. On knockback test 2, there was 0 vertical knockback and people were sliding after every hit. Didn’t like it

 

[DarkStray]

Disadvantage of old knockback: Can be difficult to knock people off, especially stacked players

Easy fix if the CubeCraft dev team can admit to a bug and a mistake by fixing DOWNWARDS KNOCKBACK


That STILL exists and STILL ruins the current KB.

Satisfying combos

No, they aren't satisfying it requires no skill to combo and it happens at random

makes it difficult to fight back when comboed

Especially for high ping because you have to run away earlier get hit more because of it ending up in you dying off the edge or by the sword.

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

So original KB


The thing is if they did this, the KB would suck players into the ground again

BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, They changed nothing but the number variables!

Surprising... Cubecraft doing the BARE minimum to fix something to please the blind folded community....

On knockback test 2, there was 0 vertical knockback and people were sliding after every hit. Didn’t like it

That's because of Downwards KB that they can fix but won't because it's too hard for them to do apparently... Even though the fixed it for Fire and Potions? And their excuse is "It's a java feature" But with fire and potions it DOES THE SAME EXACT THING ON JAVA. But when it involves Fall damage or a player swing? NAHHH THAT'S A FEATURE UNLIKE THE FIRE!

 

[IWantACookiieee]

I agree with you with the suggested changes for the knockback. Like what you said, I was surprised when the knockback got changed and started playing a lot, that is until got reverted. I'm like why take away all the fun?

 

[Herbubulle]

A few days ago, I started to notice that the knockback is different. It was so much better in my opinion but some people disagree. Today, the knockback got reverted which I disagree with. Before I talk about what I want to change in the knockback system, I'll list the advantages and disadvantages of both knockback systems.

Advantages of old knockback:

• Easy to pick up on, doesn’t need a lot of practice
• Doesn’t favor people with high cps or low ping; balanced for everyone
• Allows you to land critical hits and strafe easier
• Faster paced fights
• Easier to win 2v1s

Disadvantage of old knockback: Can be difficult to knock people off, especially stacked players

Advantages of current knockback:

• Easier to knock off stacked players
• Satisfying combos

Disadvantages of current knockback:

• Harder for new players to get used to
• Favors players with high CPS and low ping and not people who can strafe, makes it difficult to fight back when comboed
• Makes landing crits not worth it (and difficult) due to the vertical knockback
• Slower paced fights (depending on the person)
• Makes it harder to win fights if 2 or more people are fighting you, same for escaping
• Harder to beat hackers

What I would like to see changed:

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

The reason I would like to see those changes is to create a balance in the PvP mechanics that will appeal to both sides of the community who prefer the old and the new knockback. If executed correctly, there will be more ways to fight the enemy and not just combo them, like strafing will be made easier, crits will be easier to land and not worthless, and combos will be way more satisfying in my opinion and will make it easier to knock off a stacked player, as well as speeding up games.

Do you agree? If you have different solutions, comment them below

Edit: What knockback used to look like

The "new" knockback is good right now, I don't think it need changes.
So:

 

[AlexTheNG]

I agree with you with the suggested changes for the knockback. Like what you said, I was surprised when the knockback got changed and started playing a lot, that is until got reverted. I'm like why take away all the fun?

becuz CubeCraft dislike their players and they don't want their players to enjoy playing on their server :D

 

[Landon AWESOME9]

A few days ago, I started to notice that the knockback is different. It was so much better in my opinion but some people disagree. Today, the knockback got reverted which I disagree with. Before I talk about what I want to change in the knockback system, I'll list the advantages and disadvantages of both knockback systems.

Advantages of old knockback:

• Easy to pick up on, doesn’t need a lot of practice
• Doesn’t favor people with high cps or low ping; balanced for everyone
• Allows you to land critical hits and strafe easier
• Faster paced fights
• Easier to win 2v1s

Disadvantage of old knockback: Can be difficult to knock people off, especially stacked players

Advantages of current knockback:

• Easier to knock off stacked players
• Satisfying combos

Disadvantages of current knockback:

• Harder for new players to get used to
• Favors players with high CPS and low ping and not people who can strafe, makes it difficult to fight back when comboed
• Makes landing crits not worth it (and difficult) due to the vertical knockback
• Slower paced fights (depending on the person)
• Makes it harder to win fights if 2 or more people are fighting you, same for escaping
• Harder to beat hackers

What I would like to see changed:

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

The reason I would like to see those changes is to create a balance in the PvP mechanics that will appeal to both sides of the community who prefer the old and the new knockback. If executed correctly, there will be more ways to fight the enemy and not just combo them, like strafing will be made easier, crits will be easier to land and not worthless, and combos will be way more satisfying in my opinion and will make it easier to knock off a stacked player, as well as speeding up games.

Do you agree? If you have different solutions, comment them below

Edit: What knockback used to look like

I did feel a difference in the kb a few days ago, that it was somehow cleaner and easier to combo, but it also felt that I was getting insane ping reach. Personally I didnt have a problem with the original kb. The kb present a few days ago did feel better than the usual one.

 

[SlinkyGnu05604]

I know that not everyone experienced the knockback I was talking about shown in the video, so I edited OP to suggest a knockback test for that kind of knockback

 

[Patsman]

I like the newer knockback. It's very satisfying when you get someone in a combo

 

[RaisinForABrain]

A few days ago, I started to notice that the knockback is different. It was so much better in my opinion but some people disagree. Today, the knockback got reverted which I disagree with. Before I talk about what I want to change in the knockback system, I'll list the advantages and disadvantages of both knockback systems.

Advantages of old knockback:

• Easy to pick up on, doesn’t need a lot of practice
• Doesn’t favor people with high cps or low ping; balanced for everyone
• Allows you to land critical hits and strafe easier
• Faster paced fights
• Easier to win 2v1s

Disadvantage of old knockback: Can be difficult to knock people off, especially stacked players

Advantages of current knockback:

• Easier to knock off stacked players
• Satisfying combos

Disadvantages of current knockback:

• Harder for new players to get used to
• Favors players with high CPS and low ping and not people who can strafe, makes it difficult to fight back when comboed
• Makes landing crits not worth it (and difficult) due to the vertical knockback
• Slower paced fights (depending on the person)
• Makes it harder to win fights if 2 or more people are fighting you, same for escaping
• Harder to beat hackers

What I would like to see changed:

• Increase horizontal knockback by a bit
• Decrease vertical knockback by a bit, but make it possible to still combo

The reason I would like to see those changes is to create a balance in the PvP mechanics that will appeal to both sides of the community who prefer the old and the new knockback. If executed correctly, there will be more ways to fight the enemy and not just combo them, like strafing will be made easier, crits will be easier to land and not worthless, and combos will be way more satisfying in my opinion and will make it easier to knock off a stacked player, as well as speeding up games.

Do you agree? If you have different solutions, comment them below

Edit: What knockback used to look like a few days ago
Edit 2: I would like to see a knockback test for this to get more feedback, since not everyone experienced this kind of knockback shown in the video through the hyperlink

Completely agree besides the fact that the ping is balanced. I have 250 ping and it is definitely not balanced. I don't have bad wifi, just live in Australia so I take slightly delayed kb and have no hit reg, which is my point I'm coming too. When ever I'm in trades with players under about 180 ping, they out hit me purely because of how terrible my hit reg is. The new KB that offered less horizontal KB offered nothing in favour of high ping good internet players as myself, but rather made the KB more tradier and hit reg based. The old KB isn't much better but it is. Otherwise, a great post :)