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The rest of the team won lmao.
If you are eliminated from the game, you are of no use to your team aside from ghosting. We can all agree that ghosting is frowned upon, and wasn't at all intended to happen.
You could've left as a spectator and they would've still won.
Or is this solo?
Just because you lost usefulness to your team doesn't mean anything.
You're still PART of the team.
As a group effort whether you're alive or not, this is TEAM.
The team could've won while you left the game, but must I remind you that this is a team?
You are part of the team until you leave the game, usefulness doesn't matter.
Even if I am eliminated, does that stop me from not being part of the team?
I'm pretty much going to stop debating at this point, so keep your opinions if you want.
It's in the name.
My point still stands: They could've won even if you left, so rewards are pointless. You're not supposed to get the win for something THEY did.
You're basically basing your point off of the fact that you're set to spectator while still being in the teams colour, which could easily be proven wrong if spectators weren't in any specific team. Other than that, there's nothing proving that fact.
So according to that message, yes, you are still part of the team.
Even if they added this I think most people would still leave the game instantly.
They could still easily get eliminated and or kill farmed for all they care.
If he wasn't eliminated, so be it. He's still in the game, and still physically in the team in that case.
What's more accurate? Saying the entire team won or saying that the specific players won?
I think we can both agree that the latter is more accurate.
If the message was "Player x and player y from team x" won, this wouldn't even be a valid argument.
Regardless of what you or I consider being part of a team or not, the majority still votes yes.
So if some mod could forward this, that'd be great.
The thing is: You're a spectator. Team colours don't matter at all if you're a spectator, as all it does is show you what team you were on before you were eliminated. If the spectators were their own colour, it would still mean you're out of the game.
In order to win the game, you need to be the last team remaining. If you lost a few teammates on the way, you still have your team colour.
When the chat says: "Team Red won the game!" it implies that the entire team won, even though a few were eliminated & didn't win.
If it said "Player and player from team Red won the game!" it implies that those specific players won the game.
I get that you think you still won the game if your team won, but I don't agree with that.
Seriously: Do you want people to farm wins by AFK'ing? 'Cause that'll be a lot more probable in maps like Rome or Mansion.
3. You can't be AFK since you have to rejoin games
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I mean you still participated. Being forced to stay for the points may encourage ghosting, I mean what real difference would it make if I left the match? As long as I participated I think I should still get a prize since we won as a team.
It's called a team game for a reason. team.
When your team wins the game, doesn't it say: "Team green won the game!" and not: "Player x y and z on team green won the game!"?
Loads of other games let the entire team win, even the players who died, for this exact reason. It's better, fairer and makes more sense.
"but players who died shouldn't win because they didn't help the team"
This is just incorrect. A player could have killed 3 teams on his own, have upgraded the generators at his home island and could have gave his teammates extra gear before being eliminated. That you died doesn't mean you didn't help your team. It's a very incorrect statement to make.
Controversially, a player who afked on his island the entire game and have done nothing, yet he still wins when his team wins because he's still alive. that player still won without helping the team at all.
When your team wins the game, doesn't it say: "Team green won the game!" and not: "Player x y and z on team green won the game!"?
Loads of other games let the entire team win, even the players who died, for this exact reason. It's better, fairer and makes more sense.
"but players who died shouldn't win because they didn't help the team"
This is just incorrect. A player could have killed 3 teams on his own, have upgraded the generators at his home island and could have gave his teammates extra gear before being eliminated. That you died doesn't mean you didn't help your team. It's a very incorrect statement to make.
Controversially, a player who afked on his island the entire game and have done nothing, yet he still wins when his team wins because he's still alive. that player still won without helping the team at all.
I don't know. Maybe they can do if you died the last ... minutes, you get the win, and otherwise NOT. Why? Otherwise you didn't helped to win, and if you died the last (maybe 5) ... minutes, you died maybe with the last attack.
Gainfullterror
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You didn't win lmao.
The rest of the team won lmao.
If you are eliminated from the game, you are of no use to your team aside from ghosting. We can all agree that ghosting is frowned upon, and wasn't at all intended to happen.
You could've left as a spectator and they would've still won.
Is this team?
Or is this solo?
Just because you lost usefulness to your team doesn't mean anything.
You're still PART of the team.
As a group effort whether you're alive or not, this is TEAM.
The team could've won while you left the game, but must I remind you that this is a team?
You are part of the team until you leave the game, usefulness doesn't matter.
Even if I am eliminated, does that stop me from not being part of the team?
I'm pretty much going to stop debating at this point, so keep your opinions if you want.
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I think that the player should be credited with a win if they die in a team game, but maybe they could be rewarded less. I'm not sure if it would be strange to receive a .5 win if you die but I also don't think you should get a full win since people tend to have their friends carry the team if their skills aren't up to par.
Gainfullterror
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Obviously team mode.
It's in the name.
Actually, you have no play in the game anymore. You're not a part of the game anymore.
Yes, but as a spectator. One who doesn't have a say in what happens in the game, and is there to watch.
And reminding me that it is a team means what exactly?
My point still stands: They could've won even if you left, so rewards are pointless. You're not supposed to get the win for something THEY did.
Yes and no: You're a spectator, so you're not of any importance to the time aside from ghosting, meaning that they don't at all need you to stay in game.
You're basically basing your point off of the fact that you're set to spectator while still being in the teams colour, which could easily be proven wrong if spectators weren't in any specific team. Other than that, there's nothing proving that fact.
Yet a player could be afk on his island the entire game and have done nothing for the team, yet they're still getting a win for something THEY did, whilst a player who killed 3 teams on his own, gave his teammates gear and upgraded the generator clearly did something that led to a win.
When a team wins, it says: "Team x has won the game!" and not "Player y and z from team x won the game"
So according to that message, yes, you are still part of the team.
I think most people would not be bothered to ghost unless they got quite far in the game themselves.
Even if they added this I think most people would still leave the game instantly.
Gainfullterror
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What about it?
They could still easily get eliminated and or kill farmed for all they care.
If he wasn't eliminated, so be it. He's still in the game, and still physically in the team in that case.
"according to that message"
What's more accurate? Saying the entire team won or saying that the specific players won?
I think we can both agree that the latter is more accurate.
If the message was "Player x and player y from team x" won, this wouldn't even be a valid argument.
Just to note, even when you die, you keep the color of your team, so you're still physically in that team according to the game.
Yet the actual message is not the latter, since the first one makes more sense.
But it isn't, so it's a valid argument.
Regardless of what you or I consider being part of a team or not, the majority still votes yes.
So if some mod could forward this, that'd be great.
Gainfullterror
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You keep the colour, and you're technically "in the team".
The thing is: You're a spectator. Team colours don't matter at all if you're a spectator, as all it does is show you what team you were on before you were eliminated. If the spectators were their own colour, it would still mean you're out of the game.
How?
In order to win the game, you need to be the last team remaining. If you lost a few teammates on the way, you still have your team colour.
When the chat says: "Team Red won the game!" it implies that the entire team won, even though a few were eliminated & didn't win.
If it said "Player and player from team Red won the game!" it implies that those specific players won the game.
I get that you think you still won the game if your team won, but I don't agree with that.
It's an argument based off of something that doesn't mean much (negligible)*
Seriously: Do you want people to farm wins by AFK'ing? 'Cause that'll be a lot more probable in maps like Rome or Mansion.
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1. It's already possible
2. It would be a very slow way of "farming" wins
3. You can't be AFK since you have to rejoin games
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