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First of all this copying directly from CosmicPvp and second golden apples are only useful when out of combat really so pretty much a useless concept because of the extreme damage 1.9 does

Now for 1.8 god applesthis would definetly be a good idea

Haha when I read this I'm like, this guy definitely plays some factions on cosmic.
 

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(This is mainly on normal mode) Really simple idea, on normal mode at the moment you can survive just about anything if you have enough armour but mainly golden apples, you can get from 2 hearts to 10 hearts really quickly by just non stop eating golden apples which is a bit overpowered. And I've noticed a lot of fights I have in normal end up to who has the most armour and golden apples (the fights where people don't punch bow spam at least).

It's pretty bland and I feel like a cooldown on eating golden apples could balance it a lot more. Or make it so after you've eaten 2 golden apples within 5 seconds, you can't eat another for another 5 seconds. The cooldown could even be 2 seconds and would still make such a big difference.

Thanks for reading and I'd love to hear your feedback on this idea!
This sound like a good idea but golden apple sickness is from cosmic pvp but I agree that we need a cool down for normal mode this would make it more intense.
 

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Haha when I read this I'm like, this guy definitely plays some factions on cosmic.
Yeah lol, I play quite a bit of factions on cosmic although I suck at 1.8 pvp : P Thought people would understand it more if I said golden apple sickness because that's what it's called on cosmic. But
That's totally not what happened with food.
What happened in the update is, if you eat food and you're under 10 hearts, it's gonna regen you (at a very expensive cost of saturation) and the regen is based on how much saturation you have. Steaks have a really high saturation, so your food bars can last long if you do normal activities, and regen you fast and consistently on the go. But the fact with steak is, you can only fully regen once, and just by hitting the enemy once you make them lose that extra bit of saturation spent on regen, so they can't fully regen while getting hit.

Golden apples, though, even though having a slightly lower saturation they also have Regeneration II which gives a massive regen boost. This enables the player to regen slightly faster than with just normal food-regen and also keep the regen while the player is being hit, because it's not driven by food saturation, lost in amounts x time, but just the Regeneration II effect, that is only based off of time, and also has absorption.

While Golden apples might seem OP, they leave the player un-defended (they can't attack while eating, unless they have an hacked client) so when the enemy is off guard, you keep critical-hitting. This will put pressure on the enemy, and it will either end with:
1) The enemy runs out of Gapples and dies
2) You deal way more damage than Gapples can regen so they die
3) You're bad at PvP, miss a hit or two, and get rekked, so you die.

So if you need to quickly regen mid-fight, Golden Apples are always the best, and if you only have steak, make sure to take cover to regen, or just avoid losing any health.
http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Hunger#Mechanics
Here you can see a table of Food points and saturation.
Cooked food is most of the time way more saturated than raw food.
Golden carrots are basically the best food in the game, so it's reasonable to take some gold blocks from mid when you get the chance to to get both some of those and golden apples if you lack any. This way, you can run for a long amount of time, and won't need to eat in fight as much.

Yeah sorry for the long wall of text lel I like this sorta stuff
Wow didn't know all that, that's pretty interesting! And yeah I wouldn't say I'm too bad at pvp but on certain maps like fairground where there's so much generators, (eggwars) I lag a lot and end up missing most of my hits (main reason I don't use axes) so it usually ends with option 3. for me.But on maps I can maintain 30 fps like kingdom, pizza, space, I usually don't miss much hits and can beat people golden apple spamming. Haven't played muc hskywars though so don't know about that
 

AteSpade

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Haha when I read this I'm like, this guy definitely plays some factions on cosmic.
Yep I play quite a lot of factions on cosmic : P Thought it would be a good idea on eggwars, normal mode specifically though but maybe not a cooldown of sorts but more its nerfed when you're in combat/near an enemy player to stop just golden apple spamming bringing you back to full, maybe just nerfed absorption/regen. It mainly only works if you have spare armour though or else they'll break your gear pretty quickly, I don't think the whole golden apple spamming works on 1.8 though because they can probably out-hit the regen very very easily.
 
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