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Do you like this idea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 12 50.0%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • No

    Votes: 8 33.3%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 2 8.3%
  • I like the idea but i don't want another variation

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I dislike the idea and i don't want another variation

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    24
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To the people who voted no: at least explain yourself pls thnx
I think the ones who vote no and don't leave an explanation for it are either:
1. People who didn't read the full thread / still somehow don't understand my idea and just vote no (not even seeing me say at the end to please leave an explanation for it)
2. Haters (if i have em)
3. People who are too lazy to explain why they don't like it (too bad)
4. People who are afraid that they're going to be crusified if they show that they're among the ones who don't like the idea (no, you won't be crusified, i'm overall pretty accepting to anyone's opinion on it, no reason to be afraid unless your reasoning to dislike it is absolutely completely retarded)
5. ???
 
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I think the ones who vote no and don't leave an explanation for it are either:
1. People who didn't read the full thread / still somehow don't understand my idea and just vote no (not even seeing me say at the end to please leave an explanation for it)
2. Haters (if i have em)
3. People who are too lazy to explain why they don't like it (too bad)
4. People who are afraid that they're going to be crusified if they show that they're among the ones who don't like the idea (no, you won't be crusified, i'm overall pretty accepting to anyone's opinion on it, no reason to be afraid unless you're reasoning to dislike it is absolutely completely retarded)
5. ???
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Make a new thread ; short and brief . Keep it in eggwars so that only people who understand the game post on it
 
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(Completed updated version, originating from the 'Eggwars' section)

(THIS IS MAINLY FOR THE ONES WHO HAVENT SEEN MY UPDATES TO THE IDEA.

I totally understand if you don't feel like responding again since i already posted this before at the Eggwars section a while ago. Although i would like to hear your opinions of course if you weren't aware of the idea in the first place or weren't aware of the updates to it.)



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Hello people of CubeCraft!


So listen up. I came up with a lil idea for a different Gamemode variation for Eggwars that i myself consider to be pretty neat and would definitely consider trying out / playing with. I'll try to explain it clearly (even though it really isn't that complicated, which makes it thus the more great!). I'm sharing this because, firstly, i believe it's about damn time for something new and fresh again, and secondly, cause this might have some potential and isn't that hard to implement in the current system of Eggwars Teams (either Normal or Speed, doesn't matter, same for both).

And yes, i did post this before already, i just want to see the responses to the updated and completed version most haven't seen yet.




So. Here's the idea:

Very short version: allied teams

Longer more explained version:

NAME (IDEAS): 'Crossteam mode' or 'Mega Teams' / 'Allies' / 'Squads' / 'Eggwars Elites' (just thinking of a cool name now, Staff could perhaps come up with a better more original name if they feel like it):

-(JUST READ THE UNDERLINED SENTENCES IF YOU DON'T NEED ALL THE EXPLAINING)-

CONCEPT: Same setup as with Normal Team Eggwars, only now, individual seperate teams are allied, but still stay seperate teams each with their own egg, (So a team with 2 eggs basically, or more, depending on the amount of teams making up one team). what i mean by that is that for example on the map Aztec (where you have 6 vs 6 vs 6 vs 6), you could have 6 - 6 vs 6 - 6, so le'ts say Yellow and Blue vs Red and Green. Simple as that.

In this scenario it's basically turned the gamemode 'Teams' into a gamemode with 'Teams' and 'Squads'. Going back to my example, Aztec; here it would mean that the seperate team of 6 would be a so called 'squad' and the combination of those 2 squads (so 2 seperate teams, 6 + 6 = 12 players) would be the real 'team'.


Now, instead of just combining 2 teams, you could also go a little more crazy and make a team consisting of 3 seperate teams (or more)!, This could work especially well on big maps divided in multiple smaller teams (prefered maps would be: big maps with 9 or 12 seperate teams for making a team out of 3 separate teams of course) I believe this 'crossteam mode' would be a great idea for already existing big maps like Teaparty/Mushrooms/Dwarven/Garden/Haunted or maybe even newly made customized maps designed specifically for this new team setup.


Now one thing of note would be that the seperate teams that form the real, bigger teams should keep having their own egg, making the gamemode/gameplay more interesting, otherwise it’s also kind of the same as just having a few big teams. Nonono, the interesting part in this idea lies in the fact that, to eliminate one team, you’ll have to take out each seperate ‘squad’ (each with their own egg) of that team to completely eliminate the team. So like i explained here, you can pretty much say this is exactly like crossteaming, only now, it’s legal and actually encouraged. Now of course it’s somewhat annoying to go up against crossteamers on your own, but this changes when you’re crossteamed yourself with other teams aswell, so get the idea of 'crossteaming is bad!!1!' out of your head.

Examples:
Teaparty: (40players total) (has 8 teams of 5players): 4 teams of 2 teams / 2 teams of 4 teams
Mushrooms: (40players total) (has 8 teams of 5players): 4 teams of 2 teams / 2 teams of 4 teams
Storm: (24players total) (has 12 teams of 2): 6 teams of 2 teams / 3 teams of 4 teams / 2 teams of 6
Pizza: (16players total) (has 8 teams of 2): 4 teams of 2 teams / 2 teams of 4 teams
I'll stop now.

I do have to say though that for this gamemode to work at its best, we'll need more big maps divided into small teams


POSSIBLE PROBLEMS WITH THIS IDEA AND FIXES TO THEM:
- Not being able to recognize well who your allies and enemies are

Fix: Give everyone in one team very similiar colours. Put some kind of scoreboard up that makes it easier to distinguish. Give players a tag above their heads showing the team they belong to.

- Toxic players breaking egg defenses of other allied islands

Fix: not found yet. Possible fix could be that only the members of the island of that given egg could break the blocks placed around the egg, not the other islands of the team. Although i think this might cause frustrating situations and inconveniences. Then again, is this really a big deal? They're in Normal Teams and Speed Teams aswell. Besides, how often do you even encounter really toxic players, i personally, not so often. If it is a problem, i think it might just be something that we have to accept, i mean we could also accept it with other games/gamemodes, this should be no exception in that regard. They're unfortunately, part of the game.

- Grand scale camping

Fix: No punch bow/very expensive punch bows; diamond gens only at mid/no diamond gens at bases; slightly cheaper enderpearls (48 diamonds for example).



EXTRA (MORE IN DEPTH) POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL IDEAS:
- The last remaining winning team fights it out. The islands (that remained) of the team that survived and won, fight it out. The winning island of this fight gains extra points, while the lost islands (of the winning team, aside from the islands that died off before the team won) still receive a good amount of points for being on the winning team.

Sidenote: the final deathmatch between the winning islands needs to be balanced in some way gear wise. If the islands would fight it out with their own gear they made in the game it could cause islands of the same team to sabotage each other (breaking their allies' bridges for example) to prevent their fellow islands from becoming too well geared so they might have the advantage gear wise when they fight in the island deatmatch. My suggestion would be: delete all items and in turn give them equal gear and items. This would prevent sabotage between allied islands and would also prevent the fight from potentially being one sided.

I'd make this deathmatch between the winning islands more fast paced since it should be seen more as a sort of 'extra event' for bonus points and not the main thing of the game (imo). The means through i would make it more fast paced could be stuff like: speed pots, delete the eggs so everyone has only one life, give crazy items like enderpearls, fireballs and eggs that would generate bridges to the point you throw them (hypixel eggs from bedwars), give strong weapons and weaker armor. A suggestion for the transition into this deathmatch is to teleport all the players still alive, of the still standing islands, of the winning team, to their base the moment the team kills the other teams and wins and then start it from there (maybe even: teleport players to a deathmatch arena and remove the whole 'have to bridge to the other island' aspect all together).

I'm not too sure myself yet which option i prefer so i will leave this for Cubecraft to decide on.

- Each squad/island gets their own strengths and or their own items to purchase, therefore each island/squad could play it in a smart strategic way according to their own strenghts and weaknesses.

Sidenote: if i were to include this in my idea, i would keep the strenghts of each island minor, Also, as much as i want this to feel new and fresh and have a different dynamic to it, i also want to keep it somewhat simple and not too complicated. So perhaps some minor tweaks, maybe some item cost changes (have one squad be able to buy blocks and food cheaper), or some weapon buffs (Sharpness 1 on every weapon you buy, swords and axes), or even an island where everyone is given some permanent potion effect (like Haste 1), the more i think about it, the more potential i can see in it. This could for example be something that could be an extra thing that could be voted for, or be the same as with kits and that you can buy them (although the buffs then become more individual, so not too sure about that).


CONCLUSION:
Things that this new gamemode variation could offer!:

  • many possibilities regarding team design (making 4 teams each made out of 2 teams / making 3 teams each made out of 3 teams / making 2 teams each made out of 5 teams / making 6 teams each made out of 2 teams. Etc. Etc.).
  • A nice new, fresh air to the current team system that would possibly make for an interesting, fun and dynamic new gamemode played in a different manner (strategic wise for example) compared to Normal Eggwars. Especially with the additional ideas i've been able to add through the feedback i've received.
  • (An interesting and cool final deathmatch between the winning islands of the winning team.)
  • (More added strategic ways of playing the game due to added minor buffs to each island in a team. This should make the game more interesting, fun and dynamic!)
So.
Cubecraft...What are you waiting for?

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Thank you for reading my long take/explanation on my idea :)

Please leave your opinions down below on this, i’m curious to hear what you all think of this.

Also if you have any questions about it or things that aren’t clear for you, feel free to ask






Even though i stated my idea to be 'completed', i will still be welcoming feedback and ideas, the likelyhood of me doing anything with it has gotten smaller though.


This post will keep being updated with the latest feedback/ideas received for atleast 10 days, so if you want to stay tuned with the future developments of this idea then be sure to revisit this thread/post!


- If you maybe have anything to add to the idea yourself, please, feel free to share! i'm open to any tips or ideas that will potentially improve it. -




















Lastly, DONT FORGET TO VOTE!


(If you vote 'no' i would really appreciate it if you would let me know why you chose it so i could maybe improve my idea with that info)



~FartiliciousManChild

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This is a very nice idea and thread, but I think that there is a need for a new version, but not this kind of version. Why not this? It could be unfair for certain teams to hace like 3 allied teams and another team to have none. It would be really unfair
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This is a very nice idea and thread, but I think that there is a need for a new version, but not this kind of version. Why not this? It could be unfair for certain teams to hace like 3 allied teams and another team to have none. It would be really unfair
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Let's first off start of with saying that all teams start with the same amount of teams/islands in the beginning (if this isn't the case i would atleast give the teams with fewer islands a buff by giving them a lvl2/3 Diamond generator from the get go, or something similiar to this)

Secondly, the same autobalance mechanic that's also there in Eggwars will ofc also be here.

Thirdly, i can see your point about that potentially being unfair, but so would be a 3 v 10 on rome normal eggwars, after almost your whole team would be killed by the opposing team. Now do you see the one thing here that makes this statement sound kinda stupid regarding 'fairness'? It's due to the team it self / the other team being better that they've gotten themselves in this position in the first place, This 'unfairness' is caused by the players, not the gamemode/game. So yes it would be unfair but so what anyway? It's part of the frickin game to give everyone else a harder time aside from you yourself to win the game.


Thx for the thoughts on it anyway!
I appreciate everything (aside from nonsense)!
 
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Let's first off start of with saying that all teams start with the same amount of teams/islands in the beginning (if this isn't the case i would atleast give the teams with fewer islands a buff by giving them a lvl2/3 Diamond generator from the get go, or something similiar to this)

Secondly, the same autobalance mechanic that's also there in Eggwars will ofc also be here.

Thirdly, i can see your point about that potentially being unfair, but so would be a 3 v 10 on rome normal eggwars, after almost your whole team would be killed by the opposing team. Now do you see the one thing here that makes this statement sound kinda stupid regarding 'fairness'? It's due to the team it self / the other team being better that they've gotten themselves in this position in the first place, This 'unfairness' is caused by the players, not the gamemode/game. So yes it would be unfair but so what anyway? It's part of the frickin game to give everyone else a harder time aside from you yourself to win the game.


Thx for the thoughts on it anyway!
I appreciate everything (aside from nonsense)!
Oh I thought you meant the PLAYERS chose the amount of allied teams they want xD
 
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