Enderpearls in normal

[Spyridon Agnew Dragon]

I agree, but because a lot of people dont,
( 1. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/campers-dont-we-love-them.176626/
2. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/should-normal-eggwars-have-e-pearls.167471/
3. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/a-possible-camping-solution.163557/
4. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/eggwars-idea.132939/
5. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/egg-wars-suggestions-because-i-care-too-much.121124/
6. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/add-enderpreals-to-normal-eggwars.102153/
7. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/ender-pearls-on-normal-mode.176853
8. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/ender-pearls-in-normal-items.177226/ )
I would suggest either levitation potions or elytras. Epreals are still better though.
Also shields need to be cheaper because 30 dia is just -_-. A bow is 8 dia -_-

Levitation wont work thats a guranteed death youd need the elytra which would be perfectly balanced with an emerald gen

 

[Spyridon Agnew Dragon]

I'm going to vote against this, but it's for a completely different reason. Here's why I'm against it: Right now, rushing is the proper way to deal with campers, but it's a very risky maneuver, considering most people do it in leather. If people know they can just get an Ender pearl, they won't take a risk in rushing and will just go to mid like everyone else does, dragging out the game. I do agree that the claim that's it's too OP is quite ridiculous, considering that they should remove Notch Apples if that's the case. I still personally prefer this suggestion:
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/eggwars-anti-camp-suggestion.175825/

As of 1.9, enchanted golden apples are garbage the most i use it for is the extra hearts on space if im jumping from high areas

Deathmatch

unfair to those who dont have gear,
boats: not useful only 1 map has water
Invis: not useful if hes been shot or the enemy has particle effects on and with 1.9-1.10 sound location features you can easily track him based on sounds

 

[Chubby]

Nah

 

[DarkEndDivinity]

I personally like this idea, it's true that it is very annoying when people camp in normal and there is little to nothing you can do about it for a while. Adding Ender Pearls in normal, say at 2 stacks of diamonds each, would really help many players fight off campers and maybe help in some different situations too. I would love for this to get added, though sadly, like BalthierTSK_daForumSeeker said, it probably won't get added. Let's all hope so though!

 

[Gainfullterror]

People who says We don't need ender pearls on normal is either bad at the game and die early in the game or One of the camper, OR Delusional enough to believe we don't need it.

Have you even met a good player?

You wanna rush? Campers can camp as early in 3 minutes after the game start (Depending on the mid).
Getting Diamonds, upgrade dia gen, get armor, gg.
Someone coming? BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW.

Target the teams that are going to mid -.-

Rush isn't even a tactics. You fight over 10 other teams, and you would rush against most of them?
AND, How would you know who to rush? You might be able to eliminate 5 players, but there are still possibilities that there are campers in the other 5 that live.

Okay so rushing isn't a tactic either? What is then? What do you call a tactic?
Rushing is probably the best one to use as soon as the game starts, so you can PREVENT future campers.

And what about falling down to their base?
Taking all damage? Unless you play op, you will be heavily damaged and become an easy kill for the camper.
And what makes them unable to build up and shoot you again and again?

Easy. You get an enchanted apple since you have the time spare.
You can shoot them with a power bow a few times while they build up, to make them cover themselves up. You'd have time to bridge 4-5 blocks forwards.

TF You call 64 diamonds for an enderpearls easy?
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO USE ENDERPEARLS IN ANY GAME.
BUT THIS IS THE BEST IDEA CUBECRAFT HAVE. Ending Camping in OP, But...

oh hey look! you have a quite here VVV

You have Mid, other base, and more resource for diamonds

Seriously, they have the answer to remove camping for us people, but nope.

Camping is a strategy.
Might as well add some feature where you can't hurt someone when they say "team"
Might as well make rushing impossible by not allowing blocks to be placed in the first 5 mins.
Choose your words carefully, and come with some actual valid arguments

And you only play skywars.

How would you know that, exactly?

(When you are building to sky limit, they can easily build out of the base without even caring about you building up, They having an egg or not is not their problem)

 

[Deeds]

And...? They are CAMPERS. CAMPERS!
Camping in their base, with one single diamond generator. You have Mid, other base, and more resource for diamonds, You would have more Ender pearls none the less, killing the campers.


And what about falling down to their base?
Taking all damage? Unless you play op, you will be heavily damaged and become an easy kill for the camper.
And what makes them unable to build up and shoot you again and again?



People who says We don't need ender pearls on normal is either bad at the game and die early in the game or One of the camper, OR Delusional enough to believe we don't need it.



You wanna rush? Campers can camp as early in 3 minutes after the game start (Depending on the mid).
Getting Diamonds, upgrade dia gen, get armor, gg.
Someone coming? BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW BOW.

Rush isn't even a tactics. You fight over 10 other teams, and you would rush against most of them?
AND, How would you know who to rush? You might be able to eliminate 5 players, but there are still possibilities that there are campers in the other 5 that live.

No. We need Ender pearls.

First off, if they are camping, learn how to safe bridge.
Second off, you dont have to build high to get to campers islands, just build at a decent height to where you wont take that much damage when you fall.
Third off, i dont want e-pearls, yet im really good at the game, for the fact that i dont NEED enderpearls to kill campers, and no, i do not camp because i am actually good at the game (not saying people who camp are bad at eggwars, just its a bad strategy in my opinion).
Fourth off, again, learn how to safe bridge.
Fifth off, rushing on maps where islands are close together like storm is good because the map is played out to where most people rush. Not many people will go to mid because they will get rushed easily and probably die at mid.
You shouldnt rush on large maps like teaparty though, you can just get to them through mid.

Also, enderpearls are in OP mode only for a reason, the are OP.

I do not think enderpearls should be added, becuase there are alternative solutions, such as safebridging.
(Im not delusional) answer me this, why do you think people would be delusional if they dont want e-pearls in normal mode?

Hopefully ive made myself clear.

 

[CommunistCactus]

unfair to those who dont have gear,

Then you shoudn't have died/then you should have made gear.

boats: not useful only 1 map has water

Not for transportation on water, but for fall damage. Obviously.

Invis: not useful if hes been shot or the enemy has particle effects on and with 1.9-1.10 sound location features you can easily track him based on sounds

It maybe not 100% useful, but it's uselful.

 

[CommunistCactus]

Guys, safebridging takes ages if they are decent with bow, and you need at least a shield which is 30 dia which adds even more useless time to the game.
Make shields cheaper already, if not, do something about campers.
and NO, camping like this is not considered a strategy:

 

[iLoveYouu]

Camping IS a strategy.

It indeed is.

Enderpearls are quite overpowered, since they remove the need of making your way over to someone. Enderpearls are 100% safe compared to making a bridge.

I guess they can be seen as "overpowered", but how overpowered is it to just sit in your base doing nothing else then getting resources, shooting the players who try to get to your island and blowing up the bridge once they get close enough?

If you want to get to someone's island, make a skybridge at sky limit. There's less chance for them TNT'ing it then.

So the offensive players have to do so much work without getting any resources to take out one team, whilst the defensive (camping) team gets tons of resources and can protect their egg? Sorry, but I don't really think that's fair.

 

[Thaus]

You do know that they could also get an ender pearl and escape onto the center and camp there?
It's a double edged sword mate.

 

[The_Supermarket]

TF You call 64 diamonds for an enderpearls easy?
I DON'T EVEN WANT TO USE ENDERPEARLS IN ANY GAME.
BUT THIS IS THE BEST IDEA CUBECRAFT HAVE. Ending Camping in OP, But...

Seriously, they have the answer to remove camping for us people, but nope.
They like to see us suffer

And you only play skywars.

They are camping until they have enough diamonds for a enderpearl :p

 

[Gainfullterror]

Guys, safebridging takes ages if they are decent with bow, and you need at least a shield which is 30 dia which adds even more useless time to the game.
Make shields cheaper already, if not, do something about campers.
and NO, camping like this is not considered a strategy:

Now THAT should be against the rules.

So the offensive players have to do so much work without getting any resources to take out one team, whilst the defensive (camping) team gets tons of resources and can protect their egg? Sorry, but I don't really think that's fair.

Camping isn't fair for the attacking team. But it is a strategy that gives you a chance against a team that's definitely better than you.
I've won against many, MANY campers before, because they always have a blind spot they're not paying attention to.
Most campers I run into don't even think about covering most attacking methods I listed above.
They're annoying to kill, but not impossible as you can also surprise them.

I guess they can be seen as "overpowered", but how overpowered is it to just sit in your base doing nothing else then getting resources, shooting the players who try to get to your island and blowing up the bridge once they get close enough?

I've been in this situation multiple times.
It really sucks when they try everything they can, but you need to be aware of where they are and what they're going to try.
If they TNT, It'll be a section of the bridge.
If they suicide charge with tnt, just spleef them or make a wall and put void behind it.

I know how broken this strategy is, it's unfair against the attackers, but this might be the only strategy some players can do to get a chance at winning. It's not like it's completely impossible to beat them. As soon as you get into a melee fight you'll be on equal terms.

 

[iLoveYouu]

Camping isn't fair for the attacking team. But it is a strategy that gives you a chance against a team that's definitely better than you.
I've won against many, MANY campers before, because they always have a blind spot they're not paying attention to.
Most campers I run into don't even think about covering most attacking methods I listed above.
They're annoying to kill, but not impossible as you can also surprise them.

I've never said it's impossible to win against campers, it's just really annoying when you have to fight them and it absolutely ruins the gamemode for me.

I've been in this situation multiple times.
It really sucks when they try everything they can, but you need to be aware of where they are and what they're going to try.
If they TNT, It'll be a section of the bridge.
If they suicide charge with tnt, just spleef them or make a wall and put void behind it.

It's nice that you're telling me strategies, but I really don't need them :P I know it's possible to kill them, it's just annoying to fight them and it takes very long.