I already addressed this in the post you are replying to:Still, what game needs 32GB of RAM
LeeTheENTP said:I didn't say he'd need 32GB of RAM now. In fact, 16 is overkill for most purposes
Are you legitimately trying to claim that 1600MHz DDR3 RAM has a chance at being better than 2400MHz DDR4? Clock-for-clock, DDR4 is always better, and the RAM I picked out is clocked higher. Will this matter in games? Not by much, but why spend more money on something that's slower?and that RAM still might not have better frequencies, you have never tested those 2 sets to see which one is better.
For certain tasks it definitely matters, but for modern gaming 8GB is enough (though newer games are starting to make use of more).I don't think RAM matters unless you have under 8GB.
6 years ago we still had DDR3, so I'm not sure what you're trying to imply with this.My brother's computer has 16GB of 6 year old RAM which runs games like DiRT Rally on ultra settings with great performance, and I have never seen it under perform in any game
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1260?vs=1543In a lot of benchmarks the 4790k performs better than the 6700k which is slightly cheaper even if the 6700k is newer technology.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=2275&cmp[]=2565
http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-vs-core-i7-4790k-benchmarks-performance-leaked/
That is a restatement of what I said. The only thing you can do to further cool a single GPU in a case that comes with 4 fans is to put it under water.GPUs will always run quite hot but you can still do something to keep them cool.
1. You're suggesting he spend 65 quid now on a board he will need to spend another 130 quid to replace when he wants the otherwise free performance boost that is overclocking. That doesn't make any sense. He'd be saving money in the long run by just getting the good board now.I am just trying to save money with the PC Mate motherboard and I know it might be bad for overclocking, if he has a CPU that good I don't know why he would still need to overclock in the future when most games only require a good i3 or i5 these days and the chances are that that processor will break before he needs to overclock it if he does and in the case that it is still working when he needs to overclock it he could just get a new motherboard.
2. Depending on the game, modern AAA titles require a minimum of an i3 or i5 these days. That means he'll want something much nicer to run the game at ultra settings. A quad-core i7 will do that for the next couple of years, but after that he will need to overclock if he wants to keep playing at high settings.
3. A processor will only break if you install it funny, pump too much voltage into it, or not cool it well enough. If a CPU isn't DOA, it won't just randomly die.
The G3258 is a budget overclocking CPU and the Z97 PC MATE is a budget overclocking motherboard- they make a great pair. But, the 6700K and 4790K have significantly higher power requirements and require higher quality components in order to achieve a stable overclock, especially considering both CPUs hit above or near your referenced 4.3GHz frequency at stock settings. There is no sense in spending money on a budget board now if you know you will want to replace it later in order to get a free performance boost through overclocking.My brothers also use the exact same motherboard as I suggested and an Intel Pentium G3258 which they have overclocked to 4.3Ghz easily without any trouble and in the future and TheGrimCreeper probably won't even have to overclock his processor that much if he even does.
I see you did not watch the video. After 2 or 3 fans, the temperature improvement from adding more fans is negligible. The case OP wants to use comes with 4 good fans already, so why did you add more fans in your build?I don't see your points and I know that there is a point where your extra cooling can loose efficiency once there are a lot of fans so why use that fan when you can get a cheaper fan with higher CFM and good lighting, I am referring to the Cooler Master Sickleflow which is cheap, has lighting and a 74CFM cooling flow even if the cooling limit has been reached.
I am not being toxic. You seem to be offended by me trying to point out the mistakes you made in your build so you can get better at creating them. If that's truly making you feel offended, then I believe your source of conflict runs deeper than this discussion. You do not have to listen to me if you don't want to. But if you don't, there is an entire Internet of people and benchmarks who back me up.You are being a bit toxic, it is annoying so please stop and let me continue with my ideas and I will let you continue with yours.
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