Ghosting

[Thaus]

In games that require survival like team eggwars, ghosting would make things very unfair. Here is an explanation of what ghosting is and what I think should be done.

What is ghosting?

Ghosting is when the eliminated teamate stays as a spectator and helps the team/person know where things are such as an incoming player giving them an unfair advantage.

What could be done?

In my opinion, there are 3 things that could be done.

1st: Allow the players to chat for up to 1 minute and then mute them. Disable all message commands.

2nd: Make a sperate chat for eliminated players so they can only talk to eliminated players. All of the people that haven't been eliminated can chat normally.

3rd: Leave the chat system alone and trust people to warn them/report them.

Possible Punishments:

#1: 4 hour mute, 1 day mute, 1 week mute, 4 months mute, 1 year mute, then perm mute

#2: Just mute for like a day every time

#3: 1 day, 1 month, 1 year, perm

Tell me which one you think is best and your opinons please!

 

[Deleted member 169486]

I think they just shouldn't be able to chat at all afterwards.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

I don't see the problem with ghosting, it should stay allowed.

 

[Thaus]

I don't see the problem with ghosting, it should stay allowed.

It gives players an advantage over the map. They could know when someone has snuck on to their island or if someone is hiding. Etc.

 

[Jaistrix]

I don't think there should be a rule against it. I mean... you are still on their team even after you die so. It's annoying when it happens against you but they are still team.

 

[Thaus]

I don't think there should be a rule against it. I mean... you are still on their team even after you die so. It's annoying when it happens against you but they are still team.

Yeah so you are saying that people should have a person who can tell them about the location of everything. In fact, ghosters can tell when someone is building to an island and then people can have an ez kill.

 

[Jaistrix]

Yeah so you are saying that people should have a person who can tell them about the location of everything. In fact, ghosters can tell when someone is building to an island and then people can have an ez kill.

I mean anyone can do it. It's up to the people on the team if they want to and even after you die you are still classed as the same team. I don't see a major problem against it is what I'm saying.

 

[Waveware]

I don't see how this is a problem because every single team can do it and have access to it.

 

[Thaus]

I mean anyone can do it. It's up to the people on the team if they want to and even after you die you are still classed as the same team. I don't see a major problem against it is what I'm saying.

It basically gives the team an eye so they can know everything that is going on.

I don't see how this is a problem because every single team can do it and have access to it.

Everyone can have access to hacks as long they download it. Hacking is illegal because it gives you an unfair advantage and makes gamplay unfair for people. This is like the same thing as hacks except that it is verbal and can't be downloaded. Ghosting gives an unfair advantage and actually does make gamplay unfair. Let me ask you this: do dead people talk about what's going around in this world? No they stay dead and don't talk.

 

[Waveware]

But ghosting is in the game, it's added by the devs, it's part of the game. Ghosts still win the game if their team wins. In essence, spectators are still part of the game. Hacking is different, hacks are installed externally, not added by the devs, not part of the game.

 

[Orangeric88]

Allow the players to chat for up to 1 minute and then mute them.

That's pushing it way to far. Especially if your playing team-mode with no skype or teamspeak.

Make a sperate chat for eliminated players so they can only talk to eliminated players. All of the people that haven't been eliminated can chat normally.

That's already happening. If a player dies, they are immediately put into the GLOBAL chat. The team chat would be unaccessable to them.

Leave the chat system alone and trust people to warn them/report them.

I don't really understand this. A clarification would be nice! :D

Youtubers deal with this a lot. Sometimes, a 1v1 would happen. One player is hiding and the second one is searching. Sometimes the players would just blurt out where the hiding player is.

 

[Thaus]

That's pushing it way to far. Especially if your playing team-mode with no skype or teamspeak.


That's already happening. If a player dies, they are immediately put into the GLOBAL chat. The team chat would be unaccessable to them.


I don't really understand this. A clarification would be nice! :D

Youtubers deal with this a lot. Sometimes, a 1v1 would happen. One player is hiding and the second one is searching. Sometimes the players would just blurt out where the hiding player is.

You said that they are immediately put into global chat. What I mean is for them to be in a chat where only eliminated people can see.

 

[Thaus]

But ghosting is in the game, it's added by the devs, it's part of the game. Ghosts still win the game if their team wins. In essence, spectators are still part of the game. Hacking is different, hacks are installed externally, not added by the devs, not part of the game.

Did the devs say,"We made it just so we can ghost."?!?!?!?

 

[Orangeric88]

You said that they are immediately put into global chat. What I mean is for them to be in a chat where only eliminated people can see.

Oh. Now I get it. But can't they use something like /tell to bypass it?

 

[Jaistrix]

It basically gives the team an eye so they can know everything that is going on.

I know what ghosting is :p I just don't have anything majorly against it

 

[Thaus]

Oh. Now I get it. But can't they use something like /tell to bypass it?

Yes because they could contact their friend with /tell and tell them everything.

 

[How2Minecraft]

It is somewhat unfair, but usually people that do ghosting are already at a disadvantage in the game, but sometimes they aren't. You shouldn't really let ghosting bother u very much, they really just have a grudge on you or they're helping a friend. What would u do if you were playing with a friend and either u or him died without an egg?

 

[Thaus]

It is somewhat unfair, but usually people that do ghosting are already at a disadvantage in the game, but sometimes they aren't. You shouldn't really let ghosting bother u very much, they really just have a grudge on you or they're helping a friend. What would u do if you were playing with a friend and either u or him died without an egg?

We would leave and join another game.

 

[How2Minecraft]

We would leave and join another game.

xD well people think differently so I don't really have the right to correct u :3

 

[Thaus]

xD well people think differently so I don't really have the right to correct u :3

Yes that is very true.