I really dont like it

[LeCastel]

I'm not a huge fan of it either. I even am playing bedwars on other servers to see if any is better.

The colored blocks are a fun addition, but now you can no longer quick access blocks (middle mouse button) which personally feels like a downgrade to me. The colored armor is great too (united we stand ^^). The villager is great though; quick and simple! Didn't feel the respawning needed a change, but I don't really die anymore so it doesn't bother me. The 25 diamonds for a bow is dumb though and it does not stop people from camping at all. Only makes it take longer for people who actually do the attacking.

Thoughts with Athena:

Sorry you feel this way, but this update has created a skill-gap that was long overdue. Now, you can analyse the blocks placed to determine when it's safe to attack, when to fall back, and as an indication of a player's location. The anonymity that the game had previously was toxic, and endorsed camping.

As for the respawn timer, or the lack thereof, that was not a "challenge"; that was unfair. If a player is skilled enough to breach your defences and kill your entire team, they deserve to win. It's insulting for players to be able to instantly respawn, and spam-punch them off an island without any risk to their own lives, just because they've placed a few blocks around their egg and respawned fast enough to abuse the invincibility period.

If you aren't skilled enough to get an egg, because some people that just respawned without any stuff you didn't deserve to get the egg ;)

I honestly never have had problems with respawning people. Take a few blocks with you and either block the staircases or build yourself in at the egg. Problem solved. O boy, one of them has a pick? Deal with it. Get some obby, use their gold gen. Make sure you kill that one and then get the egg. It's so easy. But I don't really mind the update. Nothing really changed for me personally, but I just find this argument kinda dull ;)

 

[CaptaiinAmerica]

I don't think it really matters anymore. It's just the team color.

 

[Javima1]

I think respawn time is necesary and important, im not agree

 

[TheSweetSuitMan]

I'm not a huge fan of it either. I even am playing bedwars on other servers to see if any is better.

The colored blocks are a fun addition, but now you can no longer quick access blocks (middle mouse button) which personally feels like a downgrade to me. The colored armor is great too (united we stand ^^). The villager is great though; quick and simple! Didn't feel the respawning needed a change, but I don't really die anymore so it doesn't bother me. The 25 diamonds for a bow is dumb though and it does not stop people from camping at all. Only makes it take longer for people who actually do the attacking.



If you aren't skilled enough to get an egg, because some people that just respawned without any stuff you didn't deserve to get the egg ;)

I honestly never have had problems with respawning people. Take a few blocks with you and either block the staircases or build yourself in at the egg. Problem solved. O boy, one of them has a pick? Deal with it. Get some obby, use their gold gen. Make sure you kill that one and then get the egg. It's so easy. But I don't really mind the update. Nothing really changed for me personally, but I just find this argument kinda dull ;)

In most cases it is easy, but I still find myself fighting off some respawners on bigger teams (teams of two is ok, but from 3 on it gets tricky), it really doesn't matter if you think it is easy or not, It is just that you just fought an entire team (eighter on your own or with your team) and you should be rewarded for it. That's the deal. The game is about killing players and get their egg to eliminate them, not about 3 stupid guys slapping you with the fist to prevent you from doing so.

 

[Injunction]

Maybe we could make it so when you respawn you can not hit pple for 5
seconds

do you know the why they needed the respawn timer
it was added so people couldn't just respawn and just punch whomever is near them

 

[LeCastel]

In most cases it is easy, but I still find myself fighting off some respawners on bigger teams (teams of two is ok, but from 3 on it gets tricky), it really doesn't matter if you think it is easy or not, It is just that you just fought an entire team (eighter on your own or with your team) and you should be rewarded for it. That's the deal. The game is about killing players and get their egg to eliminate them, not about 3 stupid guys slapping you with the fist to prevent you from doing so.

I don't see why you should be rewarded for killing other people. Like if I kill someone at mid I ain't getting any reward either?

You just killed an entire team alone... don't see why you would be so scared of a few naked guys. If you did it with a team even easier, one of you gets the egg and the other keeps them busy. Use what the game already offers you to your advantage.

 

[Injunction]

I don't see why you should be rewarded for killing other people. Like if I kill someone at mid I ain't getting any reward either?

yes you do
you get a point from killing anyone so you 100% are rewarded already

 

[TheSweetSuitMan]

I don't see why you should be rewarded for killing other people. Like if I kill someone at mid I ain't getting any reward either?

You just killed an entire team alone... don't see why you would be so scared of a few naked guys. If you did it with a team even easier, one of you gets the egg and the other keeps them busy. Use what the game already offers you to your advantage.

Killing players in the middle is a natural process of the game.

It sounds odd, but when (nearly) everyone wants diamonds, they go to the place where they can find it...the middle. When opponents meet in the middle, they try to achieve their goal (getting diamonds), while preventing others from achieving theirs. That's logical. That's natural and should NOT be awarded (although it still awards, but in a less direct way).
When you are attacking someone it is a whole different story. You attack their BASE and your direct goal at this point is to be the last team standing (attacking as long as there is more than one team isn't required) and not to kill teams. The other team has the same goal (stay alive) which is, when being attacked, at risk of failing.
Point is, you are not required to attack them, while they have to defend.
This makes attacking less important, than defending (although the best defense is indeed offense) and thus unnatural.

To compensate for that you need a reward.

See it as a side quest. If you do the main quest you are doing the logical thing and shouldn't be as much rewarded as doing the side quest, which doesn't effect your progress on the end goal.

I don't have any footage sadly, but read my post on the beginning of this thread and that will tell you why you should be scared of naked men with invincibility.
Lastly, in a team it is easy, but most of the time I don't have the luxury of a team mate.

 

[LeCastel]

Killing players in the middle is a natural process of the game.

It sounds odd, but when (nearly) everyone wants diamonds, they go to the place where they can find it...the middle. When opponents meet in the middle, they try to achieve their goal (getting diamonds), while preventing others from achieving theirs. That's logical. That's natural and should NOT be awarded (although it still awards, but in a less direct way).
When you are attacking someone it is a whole different story. You attack their BASE and your direct goal at this point is to be the last team standing (attacking as long as there is more than one team isn't required) and not to kill teams. The other team has the same goal (stay alive) which is, when being attacked, at risk of failing.
Point is, you are not required to attack them, while they have to defend.
This makes attacking less important, than defending (although the best defense is indeed offense) and thus unnatural.

To compensate for that you need a reward.

See it as a side quest. If you do the main quest you are doing the logical thing and shouldn't be as much rewarded as doing the side quest, which doesn't effect your progress on the end goal.

I don't have any footage sadly, but read my post on the beginning of this thread and that will tell you why you should be scared of naked men with invincibility.
Lastly, in a team it is easy, but most of the time I don't have the luxury of a team mate.

It's called eggwars. The eggs are basically what controls this game lmao. Your reward for breaking the egg is that those people won't be able to respawn after they die. That's a huge award already. Also I don't think getting the eggs is a side quest, look at games that actually have quests. This is more logically:

MAIN QUEST = Destroy the eggs.

SIDE QUEST = Obtain better gear.

(Because yes, you don't need anything to break an egg. Look at rushers).

And no I am not scared of the naked man, never had any trouble with them and I play Teaparty only which has 5 people teams.

 

[LeCastel]

yes you do
you get a point from killing anyone so you 100% are rewarded already

You also get points for breaking the egg? That's not what we are talking about though. We are talking about ingame advantages.

 

[PheonixFF]

The new update is fine meow. It prevents peeps from respawning too fast and coming at you meow. That's the only thing I like about it meow.

 

[Injunction]

You also get points for breaking the egg? That's not what we are talking about though. We are talking about ingame advantages.

either way you said there was none

 

[Pillow]

Some people like this new update because it is more challenging. Who doesn't like a challenge?

 

[TheSweetSuitMan]

It's called eggwars. The eggs are basically what controls this game lmao. Your reward for breaking the egg is that those people won't be able to respawn after they die. That's a huge award already. Also I don't think getting the eggs is a side quest, look at games that actually have quests. This is more logically:

MAIN QUEST = Destroy the eggs.

SIDE QUEST = Obtain better gear.

(Because yes, you don't need anything to break an egg. Look at rushers).

And no I am not scared of the naked man, never had any trouble with them and I play Teaparty only which has 5 people teams.

The Eggs hardly control anything. Eggs are useless! If you don't die, you don't need the egg and how do you not die? Being more skilled or more looted.
Gear controls the game!
Example:
You are fighting in leather against someone in iron. Who wins (I've beaten my fair share of iron guys with leather, but how about a 2v1)? After he kills you, he gets your egg and kills you (although naked men might make it hard :)).

''You don't need anything to break an egg. Look at rushers''
Rushers, rush, because they don't have anything to lose. They don't have gear, they didn't spent time gaining loot, so if their killed they can just respawn and try again. Or can you (end game) ''rush'' to other teams with nothing while they have full iron and win?

 

[LeCastel]

The Eggs hardly control anything. Eggs are useless! If you don't die, you don't need the egg and how do you not die? Being more skilled or more looted.
Gear controls the game!
Example:
You are fighting in leather against someone in iron. Who wins (I've beaten my fair share of iron guys with leather, but how about a 2v1)? After he kills you, he gets your egg and kills you (although naked men might make it hard :)).

''You don't need anything to break an egg. Look at rushers''
Rushers, rush, because they don't have anything to lose. They don't have gear, they didn't spent time gaining loot, so if their killed they can just respawn and try again. Or can you (end game) ''rush'' to other teams with nothing while they have full iron and win?

Still that doesn't take away that the main goal of EGGWARS is to break the eggs.

And you already can get rewarded for breaking the egg with a potion effect, if you spend some points on it.

 

[RayzMC]

I personally do not like the new update mostly because I used to prefer eggwars instead of bedwars because we would not have to wait before respawning and you could build without people knowing it was you because we all built in sandstone but now we build in clay of your team color and it is not fun in my opinion. Now all the reasons I preferred eggwars over bedwars is all gone. I really hope Cubecraft is willing to think about changing eggwars back to how it used to be. I know if you reaspawn fast it is harder for the team trying to get your egg but who does not like a challenge. I really hope we can have the old eggwars back.

There are things I don't like and like about the update, example is the respawn timer, it's really annoying especially when defending your egg. On the other hand, really handy when it comes to you attacking someone's egg.
After all, we all have different opinions about this update, so its nice to know yours.

 

[CraftCreatures]

I really like the new Eggwars update. So I don't think it has to be changed again. ;)

 

[Darkninja27]

I like the update, Its something new

 

[TheSweetSuitMan]

Still that doesn't take away that the main goal of EGGWARS is to break the eggs.

And you already can get rewarded for breaking the egg with a potion effect, if you spend some points on it.

I've won games without breaking eggs (and my team didn't as well), but I have never won a game without killing. I get why you think it is the main goal (and in the end it kinda is), but you don't need to break eggs in order to win.

You aren't really awarded for breaking the egg, as you need the kit to get those rewards while others can have their kit without doing anything.
BTW, that's of the point too, because it is about if you should be awarded for killing a team at their base.

I want to ask something to you: Do you dislike the respawn timer? And if so why?
If you say no, what is the problem? Others do like it and if you don't like or dislike the timer why care?
If you say yes, I can only think of two things why: You want to spam click the player destroying the egg and that's why the timer was added.
or second, you dislike the 3 second waiting after you got killed (doesn't matter where). Then you have some serious attention issues as you can't handle the 3s wait.

 

[LeCastel]

either way you said there was none

And there are none. You don't get

I've won games without breaking eggs (and my team didn't as well), but I have never won a game without killing. I get why you think it is the main goal (and in the end it kinda is), but you don't need to break eggs in order to win.

You aren't really awarded for breaking the egg, as you need the kit to get those rewards while others can have their kit without doing anything.
BTW, that's of the point too, because it is about if you should be awarded for killing a team at their base.

I want to ask something to you: Do you dislike the respawn timer? And if so why?
If you say no, what is the problem? Others do like it and if you don't like or dislike the timer why care?
If you say yes, I can only think of two things why: You want to spam click the player destroying the egg and that's why the timer was added.
or second, you dislike the 3 second waiting after you got killed (doesn't matter where). Then you have some serious attention issues as you can't handle the 3s wait.

Dear god. Can't think of a counterargument, tries to insult me.

I'm out here. This has been a normal discussion so far, really a shame you had to react like this. Have a nice day.