Locking

[TheQueenWaddle]

@TheQueenWaddle So For This Suggestion
If This Is To Be Added
What Would Happen With Other Requests Like Is That Intended To Stay The Way They Should
Like Move Requests

I really don't care about those, considering it doesn't really affect the discussion. If anything it allows people to see the things in the right category.

 

[Injunction]

I really don't care about those, considering it doesn't really affect the discussion. If anything it allows people to see the things in the right category.

Okay thanks for clarifying

 

[CommunistCactus]

@TheQueenWaddle So For This Suggestion
If This Is To Be Added
What Would Happen With Other Requests Like Is That Intended To Stay The Way They Should
Like Move Requests

I Think That Is Still Ok But For The Love Of My OCD Stop Using Capital Letters On Every Single Word Please Thank You Very Much

 

[CommunistCactus]

Bump
not letting this thread die

 

[Power Ranger]

Saw this thread but never really have my opinion on it. Making this a forums rule wouldn't do much as only serious forums offences are ever really punished (advertising sites/products, extreme ly toxic behavior) I had to pm a moderator about getting my forums account limited for replying to player reports until it was actually done. If this became a rule it would be just as bad as necroposting to break and we can all agree that no one will ever be punished for necroposting as it really doesn't matter.

 

[Ellie Williams]

Saw this thread but never really have my opinion on it. Making this a forums rule wouldn't do much as only serious forums offences are ever really punished (advertising sites/products, extreme ly toxic behavior) I had to pm a moderator about getting my forums account limited for replying to player reports until it was actually done. If this became a rule it would be just as bad as necroposting to break and we can all agree that no one will ever be punished for necroposting as it really doesn't matter.

kinda true...

 

[WolfShine]

True, not everyone should be able to ask for a lock on someone elses thread. Also Their are only 7 billion people in the world. So it can not be 10 billion to one.

 

[CommunistCactus]

It's still happening everywhere sadly...

 

[Marieke2001]

It's still happening everywhere sadly...

It doesn't happen as much as it used to be though. 6 months ago it was worser.

 

[DocMenios]

Literally this has been triggering me forever but now I think I've come up with a viable argument.
One should not be able to request locks on other people's threads.
So I've come up with a list of reasons why this is total bs.
If you're lazy or just illiterate, at least read the bold.

Disrespectful
So I think we can all agree that every staff member has a brain. I think we can all agree that every staff member can use such a brain. I don't think they need people to tell them when to lock a thread. They know the rules front and back, inside and out. if something needs to get shut down, they will shut it down. They don't need a 10 year old telling them what to do. If you think you can do a better job than them, go apply and see where that takes you. Every staff member is qualified and active enough to close down threads that break the rules.

Necroposting
Obviously players outnumber the staff 10000000000 to 1 or something crazy. We'll notice if someone necroposts a thread way before they do. But guess what? Asking for a lock is necroposting too. Want to break the rules just to suck up and pretend to be superior? Go on right ahead. We lock necroposted threads to prevent obsolete threads from moving their way up to the top, some of which aren't even relevant anymore. So just ignore them and keep looking through the relevant ones, and soon enough the old ones will move their way back down the list. Posting on it asking for a lock does nothing but bump it back up to the top, so really you're only boosting it up further. Counterintuitive, right? And if you want to be irritating and PM a staff member to lock a necroposted thread, be their guest.

Discussion Closes
Whether it be you just finishing helping someone by directing them or whatever, or if a question gets answered, then just let it go, and it will die. If a staff finds it's been answered, they can lock it without getting 500 notifications.

Getting off Topic
If a thread starts veering off course, then instead of further diverting the conversation and asking for a lock, be the good citizen to actually contribute to the thread. 90 people asking for locks contributes NOTHING, which is, oh my, against the rules! I surely consider it post farming, as it doesn't add anything to the conversation (so I interpret it).

Arguments
If the situation becomes so toxic that people begin bashing each other instead of the ideas, I'm pretty sure a Moderator/Helper/etc. will notice. Trying to act all mighty and powerful trying to shut down a lock is pretty much minimodding which again, is against the rules. I think that staff have the brains to know when to lock a topic if every comment is just "***** blah blah blah ****"

Now I'm sure the staff could find it helpful, but to the creator of the thread, it can be very disrespectful, especially if they put a lot of thought into their post and it just gets shut down because some kid didn't x, y, or z.
And for a "jack of all trades argument" against every minuscule, different reply,
ALL YOU'RE DOING IS ACCELERATING THE RATE THEY LOCK STUFF. YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING NOTHING.
THIS IS BUILT ON THE BASIS THAT THEY READ EVERY THREAD (so they claim). EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOCKED
WILL
BE
LOCKED.

So now I'll just wait for the snarky reply.
EDIT: Or watch this thread get locked, that would be ironic
lmao

@Mac , @HackersDontWin , @zDutchie , @johncoles , @rubik_cube_man , @Buuuddy and @Nikoshka what do you think?

 

[TheQueenWaddle]

True, not everyone should be able to ask for a lock on someone elses thread. Also Their are only 7 billion people in the world. So it can not be 10 billion to one.

Exaggeration, my friend.

 

[WolfShine]

Exaggeration, my friend.

XD I know, I just had to correct you lol. After all, I had to learn that in my World Geography class for (no) reason right?

 

[1212hawks_]

Yes, I agree. I'm half and half about this. Yes, it's very rude to ask on locks for threads but, for threads like "Report" and the staff member is dealing with other things, yes, I'd mention a staff member. How bout not asking for a lock on suggestions, or any thread that clearly doesn't need a lock.

 

[TheQueenWaddle]

Yes, I agree. I'm half and half about this. Yes, it's very rude to ask on locks for threads but, for threads like "Report" and the staff member is dealing with other things, yes, I'd mention a staff member. How bout not asking for a lock on suggestions, or any thread that clearly doesn't need a lock.

That's my issue. Some people don't know when and when not it's appropriate to ask. In the suggestions forums, it should not be allowed to ask for a lock, even if it's a duplicate, necroposted, or etc, because once the rule becomes complex, everyone gets confused on when or when not to ask for a lock.
For questions and things like that I can understand leeway on that. I just get irritated when people shoot things down because "It's already been suggested but not added" or "that obviously won't work".

 

[1212hawks_]

That's my issue. Some people don't know when and when not it's appropriate to ask. In the suggestions forums, it should not be allowed to ask for a lock, even if it's a duplicate, necroposted, or etc, because once the rule becomes complex, everyone gets confused on when or when not to ask for a lock.
For questions and things like that I can understand leeway on that. I just get irritated when people shoot things down because "It's already been suggested but not added" or "that obviously won't work".

All right, I do not know, locks are pretty precious. I suppose, light enforcement if the usage of a lock was used in an incorrect form? I do not know. Also, autlocking sounds magnificent

 

[TheQueenWaddle]

All right, I do not know, locks are pretty precious. I suppose, light enforcement if the usage of a lock was used in an incorrect form? I do not know. Also, autlocking sounds magnificent

yeh, I dunno why people are opposed to the autolocker
It literally does what staff can do but can do it automatically w/o them needing to be on 24/7

 

[CommunistCactus]

yeh, I dunno why people are opposed to the autolocker
It literally does what staff can do but can do it automatically w/o them needing to be on 24/7

They want to minimod, and by using a button they can't show their own name in the thread, that's why.

 

[hgbf]

There is one simple fix to this - just don't reply to answered threads. Simple as that.

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Too bad people just want a lot of posts so they can become helpers...

 

[TheJeroen]

There is one simple fix to this - just don't reply to answered threads. Simple as that.

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Too bad people just want a lot of posts so they can become helpers...

Can confirm.
Let's take an Anti Cheat / Party Suggestion for exmaple;

Someone wants the Anti-Cheat / Party and like 5 people give the same awnser...


I mean honestly, 1 anwser or max 2 awnsers are enough.

 

[skifby]

There is one simple fix to this - just don't reply to answered threads. Simple as that.

Totally agree.
The only reason for me to ask a staff member to lock a awnsered thread is to prevent people from spamming useless information under it to get messages, however whenever I ask for a lock I always ask for it in the awnser itself. Don't want to farm messages out of simple 'pls lock' posts (something that is as annoying as spamming useless information/repeating others).