More democracry

[Komodо]

It's easy. Just make cubecraft more democratic instead of banning people from the network for telling us the truth.

 

[skifby]

amen

Spoiler: actual message incase they network ban for pointless posts.

I completely agree with your idea, currently one admin rules the entire punishment side of cube, and is doing a terrible job at it. +1

 

[Buuuddy]

So you want people to vote on whether someone is getting banned?

 

[Komodо]

So you want people to vote on whether someone is getting banned?

No I'm not saying that people could directly vote. However, just give us more influence and stop hiding things.

 

[iLoveYouu]

No I'm not saying that people could directly vote. However, just give us more influence and stop hiding things.

You can also just keep guessing things and you'll know you're right once you get network banned!

On to the topic: I agree, they keep things hidden because of the stress it puts on themselves and the developers and so that other servers won't copy their work. Clearly seeing the playercount on CubeCraft going down this is probably not the way to go, I understand that Minecraft all together is losing players, but there's still a decent market and we don't really have anything to offer to bring in new players or keep the current ones.

If we somewhat know what's being worked on or whatever, we can gvie suggestions, they can implement things and show us and so on.

 

[FartiliciousMaleGuy]

You can also just keep guessing things and you'll know you're right once you get network banned!

On to the topic: I agree, they keep things hidden because of the stress it puts on themselves and the developers and so that other servers won't copy their work. Clearly seeing the playercount on CubeCraft going down this is probably not the way to go, I understand that Minecraft all together is losing players, but there's still a decent market and we don't really have anything to offer to bring in new players or keep the current ones.

If we somewhat know what's being worked on or whatever, we can gvie suggestions, they can implement things and show us and so on.

You leaving the staff has been a godsent (not that i didn't like you as a mod, not at all the case and you know that). You're bringing such light to things and why things are how they are, don't ever stop doing that please, cause i doubt they'll ever tell us themselves.

 

[Buuuddy]

We don't do public shaming. Although the used evidence is circulating because Marieke has been spreading it herself, it's just normal that we don't make an announcement as to why a staff member is being demoted-- that has never been done before.

The forum accounts that were banned yesterday and today were not banned for spreading the truth or rumours; most of them were either banned for continual violation of our rules, such as swearing, or creating alternate accounts to cause even more drama, such as the 'WeAreMarieke' accounts. Their bans have little do nothing to do with Marieke's demotion, as it would have been against our rules in any context.

I'm not taking sides in this controversy, and neither should any of you, as none of us know the full story. I do question some of the aspects as to how the evidence is enough to accuse her of the recent leaks of upcoming projects.

 

[iLoveYouu]

I'm not taking sides in this controversy, and neither should any of you, as none of us know the full story. I do question some of the aspects as to how the evidence is enough to accuse her of the recent leaks of upcoming projects.

As we all wonder...

You leaving the staff has been a godsent (not that i didn't like you as a mod, not at all the case and you know that). You're bringing such light to things and why things are how they are, don't ever stop doing that please, cause i doubt they'll ever tell us themselves.

Should've seen me on Slack as a staff member lol

 

[Sophie]

People say stupid things all the time, things that aren't intended to be made public. When they are brought forward for everybody to see, they have negative consequences that are also unintentional. Whether the nature of what was said was serious or not is irrelevant; no ill-intent was meant. The inconsistency of the rules has really been bothering me as of late, why is it that staff members can be network banned for a leak threat, yet only receive a demotion for abusing their perks to remove sanctions from friends?

I feel a 'Complaints' section should be added to the forums, accessible only by people with a signed in account (as to not turn potential newcomers away from the idea of creating an account). Obviously creating alt accounts to cause drama is not an okay thing to do, so I feel those bans were totally justified; this has been against the rules for as long as I can remember. If there were a 'Complaints' section, then the community could discuss things that they dislike about the server, free from the worry that they're going to be punished as a result of voicing opinions. I know there's a section for staff rants, but let's be honest - there's one staff member that many of us dislike, and considering they're one of the very few people who can even access staff complaints, it feels awkward to complain about them essentially to their face. Ordinary forum rules would obviously still apply to this hypothetical 'Complaints section'; no swearing, targeted harassment, politics, etc.

Currently, if people want to complain, they'll create hashtags and spam them in as many places as they can until they're banned, because any attempt at genuine discussion is locked on sight. This leads to players being banned for spam and/or drama, which only riles people up more. Every forum needs a place where its people can vent, and such a place feels very overdue on Cube.

 

[Deleted member 352903]

People say stupid things all the time, things that aren't intended to be made public. When they are brought forward for everybody to see, they have negative consequences that are also unintentional. Whether the nature of what was said was serious or not is irrelevant; no ill-intent was meant. The inconsistency of the rules has really been bothering me as of late, why is it that staff members can be network banned for a leak threat, yet only receive a demotion for abusing their perks to remove sanctions from friends?

I feel a 'Complaints' section should be added to the forums, accessible only by people with a signed in account (as to not turn potential newcomers away from the idea of creating an account). Obviously creating alt accounts to cause drama is not an okay thing to do, so I feel those bans were totally justified; this has been against the rules for as long as I can remember. If there were a 'Complaints' section, then the community could discuss things that they dislike about the server, free from the worry that they're going to be punished as a result of voicing opinions. I know there's a section for staff rants, but let's be honest - there's one staff member that many of us dislike, and considering they're one of the very few people who can even access staff complaints, it feels awkward to complain about them essentially to their face. Ordinary forum rules would obviously still apply to this hypothetical 'Complaints section'; no swearing, targeted harassment, politics, etc.

Currently, if people want to complain, they'll create hashtags and spam them in as many places as they can until they're banned, because any attempt at genuine discussion is locked on sight. This leads to players being banned for spam and/or drama, which only riles people up more. Every forum needs a place where its people can vent, and such a place feels very overdue on Cube.

@Tacosbefriends pls read ty

 

[Deleted member 59979]

While I do agree the staff team needs to be more trasnparent about things, however I do not believe that this is the only reason that all this drama has occured. I believe that the community needs to take a good look at itself and thnk if the way they react to things is correct. Overall I believe the community here is very toxic (due to firsthand experience) and that the community needs to sort itself out first. Every time that a single person is shown to be in the wrong the entire community highly overreacts to situations.

While the staff team does need to pick itself up and sort itself out so does the community. I am not taking sides in this debate as it is nothing to do with me.

People say stupid things all the time, things that aren't intended to be made public. When they are brought forward for everybody to see, they have negative consequences that are also unintentional. Whether the nature of what was said was serious or not is irrelevant; no ill-intent was meant. The inconsistency of the rules has really been bothering me as of late, why is it that staff members can be network banned for a leak threat, yet only receive a demotion for abusing their perks to remove sanctions from friends?

I feel a 'Complaints' section should be added to the forums, accessible only by people with a signed in account (as to not turn potential newcomers away from the idea of creating an account). Obviously creating alt accounts to cause drama is not an okay thing to do, so I feel those bans were totally justified; this has been against the rules for as long as I can remember. If there were a 'Complaints' section, then the community could discuss things that they dislike about the server, free from the worry that they're going to be punished as a result of voicing opinions. I know there's a section for staff rants, but let's be honest - there's one staff member that many of us dislike, and considering they're one of the very few people who can even access staff complaints, it feels awkward to complain about them essentially to their face. Ordinary forum rules would obviously still apply to this hypothetical 'Complaints section'; no swearing, targeted harassment, politics, etc.

Currently, if people want to complain, they'll create hashtags and spam them in as many places as they can until they're banned, because any attempt at genuine discussion is locked on sight. This leads to players being banned for spam and/or drama, which only riles people up more. Every forum needs a place where its people can vent, and such a place feels very overdue on Cube.

https://www.cubecraft.net/forums/staff-feedback.53/ is the place I suggest if you want to make staff complaints or I suggest bringing it up in PM with a staff. There is no need for issues like what has occured to become public as I already stated, the community overreacts. I had a high level issue with a member of the staff team not long ago. Am I getting all my friends to make a rampage about it? No. I am making a huge overreaction to it? No. This drama is pointless and childish and everyone needs to stop before it gets out of hand.

The community needs improving more before becoming in much higher power. (I edited to put that in because i forgot)

 

[BringMeTheHorizon ♠]

For the community to improve, shouldn't we have good leaders? Good community leaders?? Look at this. They have no proof, and they banned Marieke. How do you want the community to be less toxic if this is how the server is gonna treat us? Please explain this to me. This is unacceptable. Isn't the usual policy in humanity to be "innocent until proven guilty"? In this case, cubecraft makes it seem "Guilty until proven innocent."

 

[Buuuddy]

How do you want the community to be less toxic if this is how the server is gonna treat us?

Please remember that the voluntary staff team is a group of people selected by those that lead the server. If there are intern issues within the staff team, it is only normal that players don't have much of a say in it. How management deals with their volunteers is up to them, and the player base isn't in the position to cause uproar when they don't agree with their decisions, as it doesn't directly affect them.

Isn't the usual policy in humanity to be "innocent until proven guilty"? In this case, cubecraft makes it seem "Guilty until proven innocent."

It would be impossible to get access to the chats where she may have actually leaked information. Though, having a moderator -a role model- who calls her community a 'shithole' and carelessly handles hundreds of reports so she can claim a gift card is not the type of player that should be given relatively powerful permissions. The last thing in particular would have already been enough to demote her.

 

[BringMeTheHorizon ♠]

So that entire thing really deserves a NETWORK BAN? Let me remind you: Tacos banned Marieke for leaking, but a few hours later he came up with the excuse of calling the community a s***hole. Quetzi called this thread stupid. Why did he do so? Are they really that ignorant? Is justice just not allowed? It's the basic sense of "I'm higher than you and I can do and say whatever I want."

 

[skifby]

https://www.cubecraft.net/forums/staff-feedback.53/ is the place I suggest if you want to make staff complaints or I suggest bringing it up in PM with a staff.

Guess what. Only one person is reading that, and the person is the cause of most of the current problems.

Did you really think complaining in there will do anything? Because let me spoil it for you; It won't.

 

[mastanub]

UnbanMastaNub problem solved.

 

[OnePointEight.exe]

Like quetzi said in a different thread. Democracy is not something for businesses. If I went to Applebee's and I started to jump up and down on the tables I would probably get kicked out. "Oh but it isn't a democracy!!! No one voted me out of here!" Also businesses can hire and fire whoever tf they want. There are some laws set in place making it so hiring family members or having a friend in the business is not allowed, but otherwise if CubeCraft wants to keep marieke as a moderator, they will, if they don't, they won't. Keeping everything secret* is a little unliked, but at the end of the day they get the same amount of updates out and don't violate any laws. Also, CubeCraft is hosted in France, a republic country. Which is basically the opposite of a democracy.

 

[MagnificentSpam]

a republic country. Which is basically the opposite of a democracy.

hmm

 

[OnePointEight.exe]

hmm

Sorry, I messed up, didn't do my research, it's just a representative democracy my bad.

 

[Despacito 2]

There are some laws set in place making it so hiring family members or having a friend in the business is not allowed,

Where do you live??

Also, CubeCraft is hosted in France, a republic country. Which is basically the opposite of a democracy.

The French system is very different though. You can't really call it an republican country. Besides Cubecraft itself is a Britisch company which means they have to follow british laws.
(soz for getting off topic)