Java Skywars - Closing Votes

[Sweetenerera]

Hi,

So, I've been playing quite a lot of Skywars lately (because of the nostalgia update), and I perfer basic chests myself. The iron golem kit is really good in basic, but it's not so much in normal, and it's just absolutely trash in OP.

Now, I think the reason projectile votes close earlier, is so people can change their kit if they choose the chicken, they can still change it.
My suggestion is simple: Do this for chests as well.. Because some people want a different kits for different votes.
I know that you can see the amount of votes there are, but there have been plenty times where it's a 1-1 or when I don't pay attention. In my opinion, ''you should pay attention'' isn't a valid argument, because then projectile votes should also not be closed before?
''Oh well if you choose the chicken kit, and it's no throwables, I don't have a kit!''
Well if it's overpowered and I choose the Iron Golem kit I bascially have no kit either..

Anyway, that's it.. I think.. I hope..

 

[BringMeTheHorizon ♠]

Or, you know, revamp all kits and make them work for every voting option.

OP - Iron Golem gets Prot 3 or 4 + sharp one iron sword
Normal - Iron Golem + iron sword
Basic - stays as is


I'm bad at creating kits, don't take that example too seriously, that doesn't matter and isn't the point of my suggestion. It's just an example.

 

[Sweetenerera]

Or, you know, revamp all kits and make them work for every voting option.

OP - Iron Golem gets Prot 3 or 4 + sharp one iron sword
Normal - Iron Golem + iron sword
Basic - stays as is


I'm bad at creating kits, don't take that example too seriously, that doesn't matter and isn't the point of my suggestion. It's just an example.

I'm fine with that as well, but just.. something.. to make the kits not be so.. completely.. useless..

 

[Deleted member 377664]

well this actually would be a great idea, have been playing skywars for a long time and the 1-1 votes are real bad

 

[Dudu]

Or, you know, revamp all kits and make them work for every voting option.

OP - Iron Golem gets Prot 3 or 4 + sharp one iron sword
Normal - Iron Golem + iron sword
Basic - stays as is


I'm bad at creating kits, don't take that example too seriously, that doesn't matter and isn't the point of my suggestion. It's just an example.

100% this
Swordsman is also super OP in basic, okay in normal, and useless in overpowered, and one of the main reasons basic chests are voted for so often.

 

[Finixly]

In person I don't like the closing thingy, but I agree why they added it. +0.5

 

[criolo]

Agreed, i think that the only nice kit to play in op,normal or basic is "scout", that's need to be changed.

 

[RickDeKlomp]

Tbh I don't really care. It's not a big deal if you picked the wrong kit for OP, as there is a full diamonds set + a diamond sword spread out over the chests on the island. Same goes for normal, there might not be a chestplate in the chests all the time , but there is no chestplate in the kit either, This will only make it annoying for people who join late, and can't vote for projectiles and chest items.

 

[Dudu]

Tbh I don't really care. It's not a big deal if you picked the wrong kit for OP, as there is a full diamonds set + a diamond sword spread out over the chests on the island. Same goes for normal, there might not be a chestplate in the chests all the time , but there is no chestplate in the kit either, This will only make it annoying for people who join late, and can't vote for projectiles and chest items.

Not really, imagine the votes were tied 1 basic and 1 overpowered, and in basic you use iron golem but in overpowered you use scout. If it ended up being overpowered and you chose iron golem your kit is useless, but if you chose scout you had a useful kit, and those speed pots could have won you a battle. The way it is right now people who happen to choose a kit useful for the type of items are at a huge advantage just because they got lucky/ choose kits that work well with every type of items, and that just doesn't make much sense.

 

[RickDeKlomp]

Not really, imagine the votes were tied 1 basic and 1 overpowered, and in basic you use iron golem but in overpowered you use scout. If it ended up being overpowered and you chose iron golem your kit is useless, but if you chose scout you had a useful kit, and those speed pots could have won you a battle. The way it is right now people who happen to choose a kit useful for the type of items are at a huge advantage just because they got lucky/ choose kits that work well with every type of items, and that just doesn't make much sense.

I don't think speed pots would give you an advantage against a decent player, but lets say it does. You lost a fight because of it, well GG? So what, just join the next game. Should the developers spend time on something , while you can also just not care about you losing a game. I do understand why you guys are upset about this, but I'd prefer BringTheHorizon's idea if I had to choose.

 

[Dudu]

I don't think speed pots would give you an advantage against a decent player, but lets say it does. You lost a fight because of it, well GG? So what, just join the next game. Should the developers spend time on something , while you can also just not care about you losing a game. I do understand why you guys are upset about this, but I'd prefer BringTheHorizon's idea if I had to choose.

It happens way more often than you think, and it is quite annoying when it happens.
It's not about the win, it's about the game being fair for everyone, and to not give someone a big advantage because of luck, the game has enough RNG with the chest drops already.
By the way, i also like BringTheHorizon's idea, I never said I was against it.

 

[RickDeKlomp]

It happens way more often than you think, and it is quite annoying when it happens.
It's not about the win, it's about the game being fair for everyone, and to not give someone a big advantage because of luck, the game has enough RNG with the chest drops already.
By the way, i also like BringTheHorizon's idea, I never said I was against it.

There's barely any RNG in OP and Basic. Only Normal has RNG. And I never said that you said that you were against it :P But that's off-topic.
I don't think this would change much. Some players will always be in a disavantage thanks to not having kits, not having enough skills etc. That's SkyWars. You need luck to win from better players. If you'd take away the luck, all the great PvP-ers would win. No fun for the bad players.

 

[Dudu]

I don't think this would change much. Some players will always be in a disavantage thanks to not having kits, not having enough skills etc. That's SkyWars. You need luck to win from better players. If you'd take away the luck, all the great PvP-ers would win. No fun for the bad players.

I think the game has enough RNG, it still gives ways for "bad" players to win sometimes if they are smart, and adding even RNG to kits doesn't make any sense, they're supposed to be the core of your strategy, and if the wrong chest type is chosen suddently it ruins your strategy. Adding even more RNG gives worse players a better chance, but the core of the game and what keeps it alive is the people that play a lot, and if they are losing constantly because of bad design in chest type votes/kit selection, they may quit, and there goes the core skywars playerbase, and if the core is gone, the game may die. Of course I'm exaggerating a bit, but it's possible it can happen, just because the game isn't fair.

 

[CraftCreatures]

I 100% agree with this... Most of the times when I vote for basic chests I choose the iron sword kit. But when another ranked player votes for overpowered chests, I have to select another kit, because the iron sword is useless in OP. So +1! :)​

 

[LordSidi0us]

Hi,

So, I've been playing quite a lot of Skywars lately (because of the nostalgia update), and I perfer basic chests myself. The iron golem kit is really good in basic, but it's not so much in normal, and it's just absolutely trash in OP.

Now, I think the reason projectile votes close earlier, is so people can change their kit if they choose the chicken, they can still change it.
My suggestion is simple: Do this for chests as well.. Because some people want a different kits for different votes.
I know that you can see the amount of votes there are, but there have been plenty times where it's a 1-1 or when I don't pay attention. In my opinion, ''you should pay attention'' isn't a valid argument, because then projectile votes should also not be closed before?
''Oh well if you choose the chicken kit, and it's no throwables, I don't have a kit!''
Well if it's overpowered and I choose the Iron Golem kit I bascially have no kit either..

Anyway, that's it.. I think.. I hope..

Every mode can be good but on special map.There is one trick with the voting.If I vote for normal and then you vote for basic you will probably ,,win”

 

[Sweetenerera]

Every mode can be good but on special map.There is one trick with the voting.If I vote for normal and then you vote for basic you will probably ,,win”

Thanks for the tip but I check the forums or my Twitter in the waiting time, or just, something else. I don't wanna have to wait.
Some people might not know this trick and tbh you shouldn't have to do this just so you can actually use your kit :/

Anyway, thanks for the tip, I'll use it for the time being : D

 

[Sweetenerera]

@Camezonda

 

[MocroClient]

This would be very handy lol. Its so annoying if u choode the wrong kit, because the votes were 1-1.

 

[Fisktratt]

Or, you know, revamp all kits and make them work for every voting option.

I made a thread about that, so if you want you can check it out https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/skywars-kit-revamp.221310/

 

[MadBadJK]

Hi,

So, I've been playing quite a lot of Skywars lately (because of the nostalgia update), and I perfer basic chests myself. The iron golem kit is really good in basic, but it's not so much in normal, and it's just absolutely trash in OP.

Now, I think the reason projectile votes close earlier, is so people can change their kit if they choose the chicken, they can still change it.
My suggestion is simple: Do this for chests as well.. Because some people want a different kits for different votes.
I know that you can see the amount of votes there are, but there have been plenty times where it's a 1-1 or when I don't pay attention. In my opinion, ''you should pay attention'' isn't a valid argument, because then projectile votes should also not be closed before?
''Oh well if you choose the chicken kit, and it's no throwables, I don't have a kit!''
Well if it's overpowered and I choose the Iron Golem kit I bascially have no kit either..

Anyway, that's it.. I think.. I hope..

Yeah this should be done. 100% agreed. Plus kits should be altered for every mode. Also, I hate when people vote at the last second to mess up peoples kits. When the votes are 1-1, i think the player with the highest rank gets the win, because have witnessed it myself a load of times. (ex. theres an obsidain and a diamond, diamond votes for basic and obby votes for OP, then it will be OP.)