[Suggestion / Discussion] Arcade

[TheJeroen]

Hey everyone,
I just created this thread to talk specificly about Arcade and it's ''updates''.
In a thread of mine a while ago, I suggested multipl things at once for multiple gamemodes. When suggesting Arcade things I mentioned the fact this gamemode has never even received an actual update...
Tacosbefriends, [To people that just joined the forums, Tacos is an Administrator] gave me a real nice awnser to all my suggestions including the Arcade section.

The question I asked:

- Why has there never been an Update anymore?,
I rather wanted to post a good looking picture of Arcade like I just did with Survival Games BUT I can't as there hasn't been an Arcade Update anymore in ages! I mean the last Arcade ''Update'' there ever was was back in August 26 in 2015. And that wasn't even an actual Update! All that happened was Super Craft Bros receiving a new map! can't believe Arcade has never been touched anymore since as it's still a very popular gamemode!

Tacos kind reply:

Arcade isn't as popular as it used to be. Trust me, I'd LOVE an Arcade update. Spleef, Hour Glass and Hide and Seek used to be some of my favorite games before Eggwars and Skywars became our big ticket games. I'll try sending Rubik some more death threats to fix H&S. Did I say death threats? I meant friendly suggestions.

This is what I'd like to talk about today;
Why there has never been an Arcade Update anymore

Like mentioned in my question, Arcade never received an actual update anymore. Back in August 26 [2015] was the last time it received some sort of Update wich was a new Super Craft Bros. Map.

Tacos mentioned in his reply that ''Eggwars and Skywars became our big ticket games''.
Alright, I do understand if a specific minigame is concidered as the ''win ticket'' it gets more updates then other minigames but this still makes no sence non the less.
EggWars received an update at the begin of December last year with the kind of appreciated Emerald Generator wich fired a bit back. Now today EggWars received ANOTHER Update (10 Februari)...

That's right in 2 months EggWars received ANOTHER Update... And yes, I DO appreciate the Developer their work, I DO appreciate the Update and work put into it. This Update just wasn't needed at all.
EggWars takes 2 months for an extra Update and Arcade most likely never received an actual Gameplay-changing Update in multiple years! I bet it actually didn't receive an Update since it got added and it was just left there.

My concerns it that Arcade will be the new Money Walls.
Here in Dotsy's thread >>> https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bringbackmoneywalls.180853/page-6#post-774231 yet again Tacos replied very kind explaining what happened to it and why.
Tacos said there was a bug that ruined the game and Developers were buisy with other Updates.
Arcade is simular, it has quite some bugs that never get fixed such as Hide and Seek never being fixed or just other bugs.

I also didn't mention Arcade is a lot of times even more popular then BlockWars, MinerWare, Tower Defence and a few more, it's still popular! Why isn't it receiving and Update!

My Suggestion is that you guys don't ignore Arcade anymore to focus on Egg- or SkyWars. Give it an actual
Update again since it didn't receive one in years! Arcade is popular but it NEEDS an Update more then all other games currently in my opinion.

 

[Despacito 2]

I do miss Quake Craft, Super Craft Bros and Hide N Seek!
Those were the games that helped me get into Cubecraft even more...
Now they're empty or broken, unless someone is streaming it's hard to play a game...

 

[BlueMoon475]

I really dislike Eggwars and Skywars, so I mainly stick to the Arcade server, and I've been hoping for the longest time that there might be some sort of update for it. None of the games have received any new maps or gameplays since 2015. Hourglass hasn't had a single new feature since it was implemented, everyone is waiting for the return of Hide n' Seek, all the games in general need some more love.

 

[Story]

Saying that Arcade doesn't get updates anymore because it's not as popular isn't correct, it's the other way around. Arcade isn't as popular anymore because it doesn't get updates. When gamemodes get updated a lot of people on the server flock to that area of the server, they play all the time, they'll play whatever is new/updated.

 

[Sijpieboy]

Yep, youre right. No more words to say. Gj Jeroen! :)

 

[Sophie]

YES!!

Arcade has (somehow) still retained a decent following, that will only grow with an update.

 

[Max ♠]

#MakeArcadeGreatAgain

 

[Geert Wilders]

yes time for a arcade update ;)

 

[SevereWarning]

I agree. We definitely need a revamp of Arcade. Maybe new lobby, game modes, or just new maps. The only games that I play on CubeCraft now (that is when I play CubeCraft at all) are Quakecraft, Minerware, TD, or Eggwars. The thing is about Quakecraft is that it's fast paced, which means that in less than 5 minutes, the game is usually over. Playing this over and over gets a bit repetitive in the map design.. knowing every nook and crannie to hide/shoot from. A new Quakecraft map would definitely be good in my opinion. For the other game modes of Arcade, like spleef and such, should get either heavy updates, or just map updates. I really don't know. Arcade needs a bit of a boost... it's kinda like the cobwebby part of CubeCraft... kinda hidden away from updates, with the usual spiders crawling in and out to enjoy what's left of the shabby shed.

 

[Cyqni]

Yes. Cubecraft's arcade repertoire is one of the best, yet it is poorly maintained. A bit of maintenance woul make arcade much better.
Adding a couple games would be awesome too.

 

[Power Ranger]

Looks like developers are adding the most suggested/supported suggestions so a way to possibly help get an arcade update is to give it a lot of coverage here on the forums :P ♡ I agree that arcade should get an update as some things are just terribly broken in it. *cough* super craft bro *cough* :3 ♡

 

[Power Ranger]

My concerns it that Arcade will be the new Money Walls.

Sorry for the double post but the new money walls is blockband :P it probably gets 20 out of the 100k people who join everyday and even requires its own website to run it so I don't see why they wouldn't remove it :P

 

[Unipotato]

I think the problem is that Arcade has become unpopular because it hasn't had an update in so long. Arcade is fun, with lots of varieties of games, it just doesn't get a lot of love. I'm sure that something as little as some new maps and bug fixes would attract some more players, we don't need something big and crazy.

 

[TheJeroen]

I also forgot to mention that they even don't accept map submissions for this anymore!

A while ago Efcluke joined Discord and I was still suggesting a Spleef Map then.

I asked him if they still accepted Arcade Submissions and he said no. This is the proof Arcade both lacks Gameplay and Map Updates.

 

[Chimpeeze]

I don't actually know why the decision makers around here seem to think that games will continue to be popular without being updated. Sure new people come along and play and think it's a lot of fun, but they'll eventually get bored with same maps and lack of updates.
For tacos and any other staff that have this belief, use your heads for a moment.
Of course eggwars is the most popular game and deserves regular updates, but the server shouldn't revolve around the one or two games, if you include skywars.
Games will always lose popularity if they're neglected, and the server will just lose players, and receive bad feedback from players, which travels around.
I feel a lack of competition in 1.9 plays a part when it comes to updating the server. The fact that cube is pretty much the only 1.9 mini game server means they have a sort of stranglehold over the players.
Mineplex and hypixel probably won't keep using 1.8 forever, and when/if they eventually do decide to either make the transition to a newer version, or run two versions together, then it's up to the staff/owners of this server to hold on to the players.
Many players will go and play whatever they have most fun in, and games that don't get any updates will attract very few players.
I've participated in many of these threads over the last couple of months and I can honestly say it feels like our opinions are just taken with a pinch of salt.
We may only be a small group of people that are pointing out flaws on the network, but I can guarantee that there is many more people that have the same opinions with regards to the lack of updates for parts of the server.

 

[WolfShine]

Hey everyone,
I just created this thread to talk specificly about Arcade and it's ''updates''.
In a thread of mine a while ago, I suggested multipl things at once for multiple gamemodes. When suggesting Arcade things I mentioned the fact this gamemode has never even received an actual update...
Tacosbefriends, [To people that just joined the forums, Tacos is an Administrator] gave me a real nice awnser to all my suggestions including the Arcade section.

The question I asked:

Tacos kind reply:


This is what I'd like to talk about today;
Why there has never been an Arcade Update anymore

Like mentioned in my question, Arcade never received an actual update anymore. Back in August 26 [2015] was the last time it received some sort of Update wich was a new Super Craft Bros. Map.

Tacos mentioned in his reply that ''Eggwars and Skywars became our big ticket games''.
Alright, I do understand if a specific minigame is concidered as the ''win ticket'' it gets more updates then other minigames but this still makes no sence non the less.
EggWars received an update at the begin of December last year with the kind of appreciated Emerald Generator wich fired a bit back. Now today EggWars received ANOTHER Update (10 Februari)...

That's right in 2 months EggWars received ANOTHER Update... And yes, I DO appreciate the Developer their work, I DO appreciate the Update and work put into it. This Update just wasn't needed at all.
EggWars takes 2 months for an extra Update and Arcade most likely never received an actual Gameplay-changing Update in multiple years! I bet it actually didn't receive an Update since it got added and it was just left there.

My concerns it that Arcade will be the new Money Walls.
Here in Dotsy's thread >>> https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bringbackmoneywalls.180853/page-6#post-774231 yet again Tacos replied very kind explaining what happened to it and why.
Tacos said there was a bug that ruined the game and Developers were buisy with other Updates.
Arcade is simular, it has quite some bugs that never get fixed such as Hide and Seek never being fixed or just other bugs.

I also didn't mention Arcade is a lot of times even more popular then BlockWars, MinerWare, Tower Defence and a few more, it's still popular! Why isn't it receiving and Update!

My Suggestion is that you guys don't ignore Arcade anymore to focus on Egg- or SkyWars. Give it an actual
Update again since it didn't receive one in years! Arcade is popular but it NEEDS an Update more then all other games currently in my opinion.

I miss spleef, paintball, and quakecraft actually being played by everyone. (Besides the spawnkillers in quakecraft that kill you before spawning in)
I would really love an update on arcade, also if there was an update on arcade then it would get more popular. Right?

 

[TheJeroen]

I'll just reply to this thread one more time before I'll let it die off and see what will happen.
I shall now summon @Tacosbefriends hoping for one of his nice responses again!

 

[Gainfullterror]

On Tacos' Q&A stream, we discussed the future of arcade a bit.
I remember me saying something along the lines of it not getting much of a player base because of the updates, and that we can't attract older players back to it.
What he said in reply to that, was that it was somewhat of a "vicious cycle" that's hard to get out of, because updates mean more players towards that game, and if that game gets updated, only a few will continue to play it like others do considering the updates can't be big enough to attract enough players to said game.
It's hard to keep arcade alive with updates, as it will require a lot of updates to satisfy a decently sized player base to be worth it.

 

[Despacito 2]

On Tacos' Q&A stream, we discussed the future of arcade a bit.
I remember me saying something along the lines of it not getting much of a player base because of the updates, and that we can't attract older players back to it.
What he said in reply to that, was that it was somewhat of a "vicious cycle" that's hard to get out of, because updates mean more players towards that game, and if that game gets updated, only a few will continue to play it like others do considering the updates can't be big enough to attract enough players to said game.
It's hard to keep arcade alive with updates, as it will require a lot of updates to satisfy a decently sized player base to be worth it.

Still, if we update Arcade enough for YouTubers to recognize it then the player base for it would also increase. And I'm talking about allot.
I've seen the server grow from 4000 max players to 20000 daily. And all because of YouTubers who are indeed promoting our beloved Cubecraft. Even I was brought to Cubecraft by a YouTuber 3 years ago.
So, what I think arcade really needs is recognition, that could be done multiple ways actually. Anyway it needs recognition, enough recognition for YouTubers to promote it and bring new players to our Arcade gamemode.

 

[Tacosbefriends]

Good things come in time. I doubt Arcade will be scrapped any time soon, but as I said in the last thread, it's more logical to keep our most popular games updated and churning out new content. With our developers working on things like a better anti-cheat, the long-awaited party system, and other things I may or may not be allowed to publicly discuss, it may be hard to relegate one of our devs to an update for a smaller priority game server such as Arcade. Nevertheless, I will push for new content for the Arcade whenever it becomes feasible.