Tower Defence - All current issues and one little suggestion.

[Troublesomee]

Hi there.
There have been many threads about Tower Defence lately. Tower Defence had a complete makeover in 2017.
If you look at the number of players playing now and the number of players playing before the update, you see a huge difference. Several players that play a lot of Tower Defence and also invest their time on the forums to discuss the game, feel ignored by staff. I engaged myself into that conversation and got to know a few things. They didn't want to make a thread with all the current issues in Tower Defence as they think it's completely pointless, that's why I am making the thread right now.

In this thread, I will sum up all the current issues in Tower Defence. I will also describe a potential fix.

Let's start with the new update. Players seem to dislike it, as the number of players playing drastically decreased after the update. According to a really experienced Tower Defence player, a poll went out asking if players wanted the old version of the game back right after the update. The majority of the voters voted yes, but the game left unchanged. I am not suggesting it should get changed, but staff should undoubtedly discuss this (again).

The Tiki Tower. Some of you might have overlooked it, so I'll explain what happened. Back in 2016, there was a contest for a new Tower Defence tower. Of course, someone won. Luke said the tower would get added in the next Tower Defence update, but the tower has, sad enough, never been added. I think the tower should still get added even though it's almost two years ago. (https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/tower-defence-contest-winner.119102/)

The vote kick command. Several players made threads about this. Some players want the command back, and some definitely don't want that to happen. Players get irritated by other players misplacing their towers. A staff member claimed that the command has been removed due to abuse. No alternative has been added. I am also against re-adding this command, as I think there are more efficient ways to resolve it. I saw one suggestion about an alternative for the command that I truly like. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/organize-tower-placement-tower-defence.206662/
Currently, if a player keeps misplacing the towers and occupies a lot of space, it's nearly impossible to still set up a proper defence. There is currently no way you can make a player stop doing this, so an alternative to the command is absolutely needed.

Timed out. Sometimes, you get randomly kicked when you are in-game. I hear a lot of players complaining about this issue. If the developers don't know where this comes from, they won't be able to fix this. I haven't experienced this bug in a while, but I do see players complaining about it. A fix will be absolutely great.

The last little bug that has been here for a while is the health bug. You currently can't see the health of a giant. It's just really annoying. :p

Win farming. This is presumably the most urgent issue existing. Only the obsidian rankers are able to vote for the game mode and the pricing. Currently, you are able to win in under three minutes if you know this 'strategy'. I am not going to describe how, as I might encourage players to win farm too. Some players might think this is a strategy, but there's nothing you can really do to stop the troops, other than doing the same thing. I currently can't think of a good solution, other than removing it. (Hardcore mode) Harcore mode has been removed!

The following suggestion has been suggested previously. It got suggested by @DaGreenerCreeper. I surely think this is a good suggestion, and they should definitely keep this in mind when working on a new update. He suggested downgrading troops, which will simply permit you to downgrade troops you upgraded earlier in the game. You will get 50% of the XP back used to purchase that level.

In my opinion, the concept of the game is genuinely good. It's gloomy to see players leave the game because they didn't like the update. Some games/bugs might have a little priority, but not updating the game ensures the game will have no players in the near future. I understand why some players think the game is getting desolated. Though, we don't know what's getting discussed within the staff team. I told the other TD players staff members do oversee their suggestions, but their opinion left unchanged. All the bugs have been reported earlier, but they haven't been fixed yet. Developing takes a lot of time, I am aware, but this is becoming a problem.
Any opinions and feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading.

-Scott

 

[TheJeroen]

The vote kick command. Several players made threads about this. Some players want the command back, and some definitely don't want that to happen. Players get irritated by other players misplacing their towers. A staff member claimed that the command has been removed due to abuse. No alternative has been added. I am also against re-adding this command, as I think there are more efficient ways to resolve it. I saw one suggestion about an alternative for the command that I truly like. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/organize-tower-placement-tower-defence.206662/
Currently, if a player keeps misplacing the towers and occupies a lot of space, it's nearly impossible to still set up a proper defence. There is currently no way you can make a player stop doing this, so an alternative to the command is absolutely needed.

The suggestion of organizing seems WAY more efficient than a /votekick command IMO.
Like literally every player I ever ask: ''Hey could you please remove this/that tower'' doesn't even respond in chat.
They do not say yes or no, not anything.

And seeing as you need all team members to agree for a votekick, with some not even actually talking, I definitly think it'd nearly impossible to actually use this command unless you are in a full party with players all talking to each other.

Timed out. Sometimes, you get randomly kicked when you are in-game. I hear a lot of players complaining about this issue. If the developers don't know where this comes from, they won't be able to fix this. I haven't experienced this bug in a while, but I do see players complaining about it. A fix will be absolutely great.

The Developers are definitly aware the bug is there, in fact I've had this plenty of times.
Can't say when it's fixed or if they will fix it all, all I know is that they are aware.


About the rest of the thread I'm neutral.

 

[Troublesomee]

Added another issue; win farming.

 

[HurmitCurtis]

The game does not kick u if u play on 1.10.2 but if u don't read the forums players would not now. may be a sign in lobby informing them of the instance while staff are looking at a way to fix it would be helpful to them

 

[Troublesomee]

The game does not kick u if u play on 1.10.2 but if u don't read the forums players would not now. may be a sign in lobby informing them of the instance while staff are looking at a way to fix it would be helpful to them

I actually never get kicked and I am playing on version 1.11.2. If others do experience this bug, this could be an option.

 

[ymbmg]

A staff member commented on which version he uses on this thread here too:
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/stop-those-random-crashing.204163/

 

[HurmitCurtis]

yeah its all very well staff commenting here but that dont help them when half dont even now this place exists ;/ lol they drop like flys in the game cause they are on the updated instance

 

[HurmitCurtis]

yeah its all very well staff commenting here but that dont help them when half dont even now this place exists ;/ lol they drop like flys in the game cause they are on the updated instance

and this is not me being at all disrespectful towards this site as it should be on here! but you would be surprised how many do not know cube has a forum site that they can actually write on, half cant place towers tidy lol u cant expect them to find a site to :)

 

[Troublesomee]

Thoughts? @AnimalTamer1

 

[HurmitCurtis]

this addition is great, i like this as been added good job guys

 

[Shyry]

I like this suggestion I read it earlier in the week but didn't reply, I don't think the /votekick should be re-added because of how heavily abused it was however, something like not being able to place on 5x5 towers on 3x3 spots and vice versa would work or make players complete the tutorial before playing their first game of TD. Also I agree with Hurmit the new announcement is a good addition.

 

[Troublesomee]

Bump!

 

[Troublesomee]

Last bump. @Younisco @Quetzi

 

[ymbmg]

Neither of them replied. I'm convinced that neither will.

 

[Quetzi]

I hear the concerns about the hardcore mode, still trying to decide what the best course of action is for it. Removal of the voting option is probably the easiest solution, however, is it the best solution?

 

[Shamel]

I hear the concerns about the hardcore mode, still trying to decide what the best course of action is for it. Removal of the voting option is probably the easiest solution, however, is it the best solution?

I kind of like hardcore mode ( even though I only got to try it like 2 times) I think a fix would be better than removal

 

[Quetzi]

Yep, that is why I've not done anything with it yet.

 

[_The13thDoctor_]

Hi there.
There have been many threads about Tower Defence lately. Tower Defence had a complete makeover in 2017.
If you look at the number of players playing now and the number of players playing before the update, you see a huge difference. Several players that play a lot of Tower Defence and also invest their time on the forums to discuss the game, feel ignored by staff. I engaged myself into that conversation and got to know a few things. They didn't want to make a thread with all the current issues in Tower Defence as they think it's completely pointless, that's why I am making the thread right now.

In this thread, I will sum up all the current issues in Tower Defence. I will also describe a potential fix.

Let's start with the new update. Players seem to dislike it, as the number of players playing drastically decreased after the update. According to a really experienced Tower Defence player, a poll went out asking if players wanted the old version of the game back right after the update. The majority of the voters voted yes, but the game left unchanged. I am not suggesting it should get changed, but staff should undoubtedly discuss this (again).

The Tiki Tower. Some of you might have overlooked it, so I'll explain what happened. Back in 2016, there was a contest for a new Tower Defence tower. Of course, someone won. Luke said the tower would get added in the next Tower Defence update, but the tower has, sad enough, never been added. I think the tower should still get added even though it's almost two years ago. (https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/tower-defence-contest-winner.119102/)

The vote kick command. Several players made threads about this. Some players want the command back, and some definitely don't want that to happen. Players get irritated by other players misplacing their towers. A staff member claimed that the command has been removed due to abuse. No alternative has been added. I am also against re-adding this command, as I think there are more efficient ways to resolve it. I saw one suggestion about an alternative for the command that I truly like. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/organize-tower-placement-tower-defence.206662/
Currently, if a player keeps misplacing the towers and occupies a lot of space, it's nearly impossible to still set up a proper defence. There is currently no way you can make a player stop doing this, so an alternative to the command is absolutely needed.

Timed out. Sometimes, you get randomly kicked when you are in-game. I hear a lot of players complaining about this issue. If the developers don't know where this comes from, they won't be able to fix this. I haven't experienced this bug in a while, but I do see players complaining about it. A fix will be absolutely great.

The last little bug that has been here for a while is the health bug. You currently can't see the health of a giant. It's just really annoying. :p

Win farming. This is presumably the most urgent issue existing. Only the obsidian rankers are able to vote for the game mode and the pricing. Currently, you are able to win in under three minutes if you know this 'strategy'. I am not going to describe how, as I might encourage players to win farm too. Some players might think this is a strategy, but there's nothing you can really do to stop the troops. I currently can't think of a good solution, other than removing it. (Hardcore mode)

The following suggestion has been suggested previously. It got suggested by @DaGreenerCreeper. I surely think this is a good suggestion, and they should definitely keep this in mind when working on a new update. He suggested downgrading troops, which will simply permit you to downgrade troops you upgraded earlier in the game. You will get 50% of the XP back used to purchase that level.

In my opinion, the concept of the game is genuinely good. It's gloomy to see players leave the game because they didn't like the update. Some games/bugs might have a little priority, but not updating the game ensures the game will have no players in the near future. I understand why some players think the game is getting desolated. Though, we don't know what's getting discussed within the staff team. I told the other TD players staff members do oversee their suggestions, but their opinion left unchanged. All the bugs have been reported earlier, but they haven't been fixed yet. Developing takes a lot of time, I am aware, but this is becoming a problem.
Any opinions and feedback will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading.

-Scott

OMG YES!

 

[ymbmg]

Yep, that is why I've not done anything with it yet.

My apologies for doubting that either member would respond. Now, on to the matter at hand. While some players like hardcore mode, I think that the number of players that have left due to seeing how abrupt matches are exceeds the number of players that hardcore mode interested in the first place when it was added. This has been an issue for roughly a year now, so the damage that's been done isn't really something that you can reverse now. However, I think that most new players seeing this for the first time would want to leave or quit immediately. So for the sake of new players looking for a fun strategy game to play, I vote for hardcore mode's removal.

 

[HurmitCurtis]

The mode I find to be unfair for anyone that is not an obs rank and I'm saying this being an obs rank myself! I know there are some that disagree but they seem to be the ones that are using this mode regularly, I've yet to see a stone player or a gold player come forward and say oh I like this mode because I can actually win a game in under 3 minutes only emerald an obs, this is not including shamel who commented above as they say they played the mode all of twice, but it would be interesting to see the 9 that voted for it to stay in sleepylivs post I bet more than half would be the ones using it. I am a fair player, and I've actually taken a lot of time out to teach a lot of players how to play,and how to place towers etc, that has been my contribution to help until staff find a fix for the vote kick issue I've read all the arguments about oh all they have to do is place a poison and a ice and that sorts them, forgetting that u have to buy the towers and paths the poison is one of the last they buy because they go for things like zues etc. I played this mode with a mod, they recorded it, we done about 7-8 of them we won every game next to no time! Every game mind we won! And in under 3 mins Lol and there was only 2 of us doing this strategy. I'm just gonna ask this if it's so easy for them to defend, how come they can't beat it?? I disagree with the argumemt that it's the same of sending lv4 skeletons because by the time they come out at least they are able to build a alot of towers! And atleast they have time to buy a freeze potion. They have no time to do any of that with the hardcore mode as llls video shows instead they chase them around like headless chickens.u can play ten games and I can bet 10 out of the 10 will end the same unless u come across a good player lol and more then likely they will join the obs team if they can or leave.unless they are like me and stubborn.