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caraMel

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I don't like this thread.

I read it yesterday and debated commenting something like this, but decided against it for the sake of avoiding conflict, but since then I've changed my mind. It feels like people sometimes forget that even though this is an online platform, these are still real people.

Moderating should not be a popularity contest. I understand this is meant as a bit of fun, but I don't think this is the best way to do this. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, who knows, but I wanted to share this in case I'm not and it can be used to improve it in the future (as you mentioned the "coming years" so I am guessing this won't be the only one of these?).

I highly doubt this was intended as much more than a way of getting some opinions from within the community as to who to look into, so I have some points that I feel would help focus on this without having any negative side effects.

(1) Team feedback exists. Notably, team feedback is anonymous and not something the whole community can see. Imo, this is good as it provides a way to praise/thank a team member without it negatively affecting others. It is surprisingly hard sometimes to give a compliment to one member of a team without unintentionally bringing others down. It shouldn't work that way, and it's sad, but it often does (especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community...). An example of this is the constant use of comparitive language. If you want specific words you can just read the comments before mine-

(2) Purpose. From what you've said, it seems the idea is to use this to decide who you "will make a study on". Then why not just ask a question like "who would you like to see a study about?" instead of "who is the best moderator?". It just feels unnecessarily provocative to me.

(3) What does "best" even mean? There is no clarification as to what metric is being used here. I suppose it is just your personal favourite, but comments like "this will be their for all the other mods, who want to improve/win in the coming years" (it is spelt there btw) suggests these results actually mean something past that and go any way towards saying who is actually the "best" mod. They do not. Are they the one who spends the most time interacting with the community? Do they help out the rest of the team internally the most? Do they handle the most tickets/appeals/reports? Only the first questions seems like something that most the community can accurately answer and these are just a small selection of ways "best" could be interpreted.

(4) Why is it public who you voted for? Just why.

I'm sure someone will look at this essay (I didn't intend for it to get this long, I promise..) and immediately think that me being so picky is unnecessary. Maybe they're right, in which case no harm is done, but if they're wrong then harm is done. It's a simple case of why would you not try to take others' feelings into account when you can? If it takes very little extra effort to reduce the chance that your actions hurt someone then I can't see why you wouldn't put in that tiny bit of effort.

I'll finish this by adding that I consider a lot of people on this list as friends and every single one to be a great mod, however I shall not be voting.
 

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I don't like this thread.

I read it yesterday and debated commenting something like this, but decided against it for the sake of avoiding conflict, but since then I've changed my mind. It feels like people sometimes forget that even though this is an online platform, these are still real people.

Moderating should not be a popularity contest. I understand this is meant as a bit of fun, but I don't think this is the best way to do this. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, who knows, but I wanted to share this in case I'm not and it can be used to improve it in the future (as you mentioned the "coming years" so I am guessing this won't be the only one of these?).

I highly doubt this was intended as much more than a way of getting some opinions from within the community as to who to look into, so I have some points that I feel would help focus on this without having any negative side effects.

(1) Team feedback exists. Notably, team feedback is anonymous and not something the whole community can see. Imo, this is good as it provides a way to praise/thank a team member without it negatively affecting others. It is surprisingly hard sometimes to give a compliment to one member of a team without unintentionally bringing others down. It shouldn't work that way, and it's sad, but it often does (especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community...). An example of this is the constant use of comparitive language. If you want specific words you can just read the comments before mine-

(2) Purpose. From what you've said, it seems the idea is to use this to decide who you "will make a study on". Then why not just ask a question like "who would you like to see a study about?" instead of "who is the best moderator?". It just feels unnecessarily provocative to me.

(3) What does "best" even mean? There is no clarification as to what metric is being used here. I suppose it is just your personal favourite, but comments like "this will be their for all the other mods, who want to improve/win in the coming years" (it is spelt there btw) suggests these results actually mean something past that and go any way towards saying who is actually the "best" mod. They do not. Are they the one who spends the most time interacting with the community? Do they help out the rest of the team internally the most? Do they handle the most tickets/appeals/reports? Only the first questions seems like something that most the community can accurately answer and these are just a small selection of ways "best" could be interpreted.

(4) Why is it public who you voted for? Just why.

I'm sure someone will look at this essay (I didn't intend for it to get this long, I promise..) and immediately think that me being so picky is unnecessary. Maybe they're right, in which case no harm is done, but if they're wrong then harm is done. It's a simple case of why would you not try to take others' feelings into account when you can? If it takes very little extra effort to reduce the chance that your actions hurt someone then I can't see why you wouldn't put in that tiny bit of effort.

I'll finish this by adding that I consider a lot of people on this list as friends and every single one to be a great mod, however I shall not be d

I don't like this thread.

I read it yesterday and debated commenting something like this, but decided against it for the sake of avoiding conflict, but since then I've changed my mind. It feels like people sometimes forget that even though this is an online platform, these are still real people.

Moderating should not be a popularity contest. I understand this is meant as a bit of fun, but I don't think this is the best way to do this. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, who knows, but I wanted to share this in case I'm not and it can be used to improve it in the future (as you mentioned the "coming years" so I am guessing this won't be the only one of these?).

I highly doubt this was intended as much more than a way of getting some opinions from within the community as to who to look into, so I have some points that I feel would help focus on this without having any negative side effects.

(1) Team feedback exists. Notably, team feedback is anonymous and not something the whole community can see. Imo, this is good as it provides a way to praise/thank a team member without it negatively affecting others. It is surprisingly hard sometimes to give a compliment to one member of a team without unintentionally bringing others down. It shouldn't work that way, and it's sad, but it often does (especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community...). An example of this is the constant use of comparitive language. If you want specific words you can just read the comments before mine-

(2) Purpose. From what you've said, it seems the idea is to use this to decide who you "will make a study on". Then why not just ask a question like "who would you like to see a study about?" instead of "who is the best moderator?". It just feels unnecessarily provocative to me.

(3) What does "best" even mean? There is no clarification as to what metric is being used here. I suppose it is just your personal favourite, but comments like "this will be their for all the other mods, who want to improve/win in the coming years" (it is spelt there btw) suggests these results actually mean something past that and go any way towards saying who is actually the "best" mod. They do not. Are they the one who spends the most time interacting with the community? Do they help out the rest of the team internally the most? Do they handle the most tickets/appeals/reports? Only the first questions seems like something that most the community can accurately answer and these are just a small selection of ways "best" could be interpreted.

(4) Why is it public who you voted for? Just why.

I'm sure someone will look at this essay (I didn't intend for it to get this long, I promise..) and immediately think that me being so picky is unnecessary. Maybe they're right, in which case no harm is done, but if they're wrong then harm is done. It's a simple case of why would you not try to take others' feelings into account when you can? If it takes very little extra effort to reduce the chance that your actions hurt someone then I can't see why you wouldn't put in that tiny bit of effort.

I'll finish this by adding that I consider a lot of people on this list as friends and every single one to be a great mod, however I shall not be voting.
Did you fr type all of that
 

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I don't like this thread.

I read it yesterday and debated commenting something like this, but decided against it for the sake of avoiding conflict, but since then I've changed my mind. It feels like people sometimes forget that even though this is an online platform, these are still real people.

Moderating should not be a popularity contest. I understand this is meant as a bit of fun, but I don't think this is the best way to do this. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, who knows, but I wanted to share this in case I'm not and it can be used to improve it in the future (as you mentioned the "coming years" so I am guessing this won't be the only one of these?).

I highly doubt this was intended as much more than a way of getting some opinions from within the community as to who to look into, so I have some points that I feel would help focus on this without having any negative side effects.

(1) Team feedback exists. Notably, team feedback is anonymous and not something the whole community can see. Imo, this is good as it provides a way to praise/thank a team member without it negatively affecting others. It is surprisingly hard sometimes to give a compliment to one member of a team without unintentionally bringing others down. It shouldn't work that way, and it's sad, but it often does (especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community...). An example of this is the constant use of comparitive language. If you want specific words you can just read the comments before mine-

(2) Purpose. From what you've said, it seems the idea is to use this to decide who you "will make a study on". Then why not just ask a question like "who would you like to see a study about?" instead of "who is the best moderator?". It just feels unnecessarily provocative to me.

(3) What does "best" even mean? There is no clarification as to what metric is being used here. I suppose it is just your personal favourite, but comments like "this will be their for all the other mods, who want to improve/win in the coming years" (it is spelt there btw) suggests these results actually mean something past that and go any way towards saying who is actually the "best" mod. They do not. Are they the one who spends the most time interacting with the community? Do they help out the rest of the team internally the most? Do they handle the most tickets/appeals/reports? Only the first questions seems like something that most the community can accurately answer and these are just a small selection of ways "best" could be interpreted.

(4) Why is it public who you voted for? Just why.

I'm sure someone will look at this essay (I didn't intend for it to get this long, I promise..) and immediately think that me being so picky is unnecessary. Maybe they're right, in which case no harm is done, but if they're wrong then harm is done. It's a simple case of why would you not try to take others' feelings into account when you can? If it takes very little extra effort to reduce the chance that your actions hurt someone then I can't see why you wouldn't put in that tiny bit of effort.

I'll finish this by adding that I consider a lot of people on this list as friends and every single one to be a great mod, however I shall not be voting.
Totally agree with this, and initally I also wanted to not vote/comment, but decided to do so anyway just to shine a bit of light on the moderators - in this case - who I know best. My answer simply was decided based on the fact that there isn't a day I don't talk to Anol, and outside of him, I know Eli best.

This also shows that the people who will get encouragement here are those who interact with the community more, which isn't completely fair either. Everyone does an amazing job, but everyone also has their own preference and one person may know one mod best, and another, another. I think a poll like this is harmless really, but a "study" on who is the best, is a little unnecessary and can really bring others down.
 

Nex3us

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I don't like this thread.

I read it yesterday and debated commenting something like this, but decided against it for the sake of avoiding conflict, but since then I've changed my mind. It feels like people sometimes forget that even though this is an online platform, these are still real people.

Moderating should not be a popularity contest. I understand this is meant as a bit of fun, but I don't think this is the best way to do this. Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way, who knows, but I wanted to share this in case I'm not and it can be used to improve it in the future (as you mentioned the "coming years" so I am guessing this won't be the only one of these?).

I highly doubt this was intended as much more than a way of getting some opinions from within the community as to who to look into, so I have some points that I feel would help focus on this without having any negative side effects.

(1) Team feedback exists. Notably, team feedback is anonymous and not something the whole community can see. Imo, this is good as it provides a way to praise/thank a team member without it negatively affecting others. It is surprisingly hard sometimes to give a compliment to one member of a team without unintentionally bringing others down. It shouldn't work that way, and it's sad, but it often does (especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community...). An example of this is the constant use of comparitive language. If you want specific words you can just read the comments before mine-

(2) Purpose. From what you've said, it seems the idea is to use this to decide who you "will make a study on". Then why not just ask a question like "who would you like to see a study about?" instead of "who is the best moderator?". It just feels unnecessarily provocative to me.

(3) What does "best" even mean? There is no clarification as to what metric is being used here. I suppose it is just your personal favourite, but comments like "this will be their for all the other mods, who want to improve/win in the coming years" (it is spelt there btw) suggests these results actually mean something past that and go any way towards saying who is actually the "best" mod. They do not. Are they the one who spends the most time interacting with the community? Do they help out the rest of the team internally the most? Do they handle the most tickets/appeals/reports? Only the first questions seems like something that most the community can accurately answer and these are just a small selection of ways "best" could be interpreted.

(4) Why is it public who you voted for? Just why.

I'm sure someone will look at this essay (I didn't intend for it to get this long, I promise..) and immediately think that me being so picky is unnecessary. Maybe they're right, in which case no harm is done, but if they're wrong then harm is done. It's a simple case of why would you not try to take others' feelings into account when you can? If it takes very little extra effort to reduce the chance that your actions hurt someone then I can't see why you wouldn't put in that tiny bit of effort.

I'll finish this by adding that I consider a lot of people on this list as friends and every single one to be a great mod, however I shall not be voting.
Hi @caraMel, I will do my best to answer all 4 of your questions.

1. This poll is not here to compare others but rather for all the moderators to improve. This is visible to the entire community because, if some future moderator wants to improve than they can use this resource, to understand many old moderator's strategy. This will not only help the present moderators of Cubecraft, but the future moderators too. When you said "its negatively affecting others", its actually helping them keep a healthy balence between personal life, moderating cubecraft, and connecting with the Cubecraft community. (I am going to ignore when you said "especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community")

2. That is the point of this poll, to see who we can make a study on. If I asked, "who would you like to see a study about?". Chances are the information collected will be unorganized, many people won't reply, and the votes won't stay anonymous. Which may lead to cyberbullying, etc, etc. I still don't understand why you are mad after seeing this poll.

3. Yes, you are correct, I should have more clearly defined what the word "best" means. By asking this question, I guess I have to tell everyone the plans after this poll. What I thought I should do after this poll was to count every vote as one point to the moderator. Then 2 points per every tickets/appeals/reports they have resolved. And lastly, how many posts they have made on their forums account will get 1 point each. Anyways, the only sole purpose of using the word "best" was to catch other people's eye, and to make them click on this forum. This method is used by many youtubers by exagerating what is actually going on.

4. This is basically a "competition". In a competion people's feelings might get hurt. Imagine this, you are in a running race 🏎, and you lost. Will your feelings get hurt? It depends on what type of person you are. Anyways, if you lose, who would you blame, the person who is running the competition, or your effort that needs a bit more practice.

If you made it this far into reading, you are a champ :)
If you have any others do not worry to dm on discord (Nex3us76)
Or, just ask me here on forums :)
 
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caraMel

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Did you fr type all of that
Yes?



1. This poll is not here to compare others but rather for all the moderators to improve. This is visible to the entire community because, if some future moderator wants to improve than they can use this resource, to understand many old moderator's strategy.
What do you mean by strategy.

its actually helping them keep a healthy balence between personal life, moderating cubecraft, and connecting with the Cubecraft community
How?

I am going to ignore when you said "especially when this is a rather young, and hence unavoidably often immature, community"
This is factual and not intended as an insult towards anyone. Look up the definition of the word 'immature' if you'd like.

That is the point of this poll, to see who we can make a study on. If I asked, "who would you like to see a study about?". Chances are the information collected will be unorganized, many people won't reply, and the votes won't stay anonymous. Which may lead to cyberbullying, etc, etc. I still don't understand why you are mad after seeing this poll.
Why would that make the information more disorganised compared to its current presentation. It would surely be the same?
The part about votes being anonymous is my exact point (4) so I don't see what you're trying to say here? Do you agree, or..?
Also, I'm not 'mad'. I never said I was. I simply think this thread could have been much better thought out.

Yes, you are correct, I should have more clearly defined what the word "best" means. By asking this question, I guess I have to tell everyone the plans after this poll. What I thought I should do after this poll was to count every vote as one point to the moderator. Then 2 points per every tickets/appeals/reports they have resolved. And lastly, how many posts they have made on their forums account will get 1 point each.
So how are you planning to get access to the data of how many thousands of tickets/appeals/reports each moderator has resolved?
(Also as a side point I believe you slightly underestimate how much mods do haha. That point system would make everything outside of tickets/appeals/reports negligible. And then, even if this were fixed, there are other factors which are not considered and are probably impossible to consider in a fair way. Then, it is just a matter of personal preference which factors are more important than others. I always dislike when people try to mathematically justify something that's just not possible to quantify in such a way. It feels weird)

Anyways, the only sole purpose of using the word "best" was to catch other people's eye, and to make them click on this forum. This method is used by many youtubers by exagerating what is actually going on.
Fine, but it doesn't have to be in a way that is at the expense of others.
I won't get into a whole debate as to whether clickbait is good/ok as that's unrelated and not something I particularly care about personally.

This is basically a "competition". In a competion people's feelings might get hurt. Imagine this, you are in a running race 🏎, and you lost. Will your feelings get hurt? It depends on what type of person you are. Anyways, if you lose, who would you blame, the person who is running the competition, or your effort that needs a bit more practice.
It shouldn't be a competition. That is what I'm trying to get across here.
In your example, they chose to enter the race. That is why it is not relevant here. Sorry.

If you made it this far into reading, you are a champ :)
Wow I feel so awesome.


Ok, I'm gonna go back to doing maths now. Bye!
 

Nex3us

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Yes?




What do you mean by strategy.


How?


This is factual and not intended as an insult towards anyone. Look up the definition of the word 'immature' if you'd like.


Why would that make the information more disorganised compared to its current presentation. It would surely be the same?
The part about votes being anonymous is my exact point (4) so I don't see what you're trying to say here? Do you agree, or..?
Also, I'm not 'mad'. I never said I was. I simply think this thread could have been much better thought out.


So how are you planning to get access to the data of how many thousands of tickets/appeals/reports each moderator has resolved?
(Also as a side point I believe you slightly underestimate how much mods do haha. That point system would make everything outside of tickets/appeals/reports negligible. And then, even if this were fixed, there are other factors which are not considered and are probably impossible to consider in a fair way. Then, it is just a matter of personal preference which factors are more important than others. I always dislike when people try to mathematically justify something that's just not possible to quantify in such a way. It feels weird)


Fine, but it doesn't have to be in a way that is at the expense of others.
I won't get into a whole debate as to whether clickbait is good/ok as that's unrelated and not something I particularly care about personally.


It shouldn't be a competition. That is what I'm trying to get across here.
In your example, they chose to enter the race. That is why it is not relevant here. Sorry.


Wow I feel so awesome.


Ok, I'm gonna go back to doing maths now. Bye!
You know, this morning I was in a pretty bad mood because I didn't get any good sleep. So now I decided to rephrase it, while using your arguments you recently stated.
Anyways, here goes:



Hey @caraMel,

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I want to try to explain my side a bit more clearly.

1. Strategy and Improvement: When I said "strategy," I meant the different ways moderators help the community and solve problems. By putting together feedback from everyone, it can help all moderators learn what people like and what works best. This way, they can keep getting better!

2. Balance Between Roles: About keeping a balance between personal life and moderating, I think this poll helps everyone see that they’re doing a good job and that the community appreciates them. This can make them feel good and not overwhelmed with their responsibilities because they know they have support.

3. Community's Age: I totally get that you’re pointing out the community might be younger and sometimes a bit immature. I just thought that if we share feedback openly, it can help everyone, including the moderators, grow and become better at what they do.

4. Poll Organization: I understand your point about organization. Using polls we can easily understand the data from a viewer's standpoint. It is also easier for the viewers to find and chose their favorite mods! Plus, it will be easier for me to see and understand the data without tallying up the votes.

5. Moderator Data: I know getting data on things like how many tickets each moderator solves can be tricky. But we can talk to the moderators or talk to the sr mods. Working together, we might find a way to find how many reports they have solved!

6. Using "Best": I get why using the word "best" can seem negative. But sometimes, catchy words can get more people involved in discussions. It gets attention! We could try to find better ways to ask questions that are still exciting but less likely to upset anyone.

7. Competition: I see your point about competition. It can feel bad sometimes. Especially if you never said you wanted to join it, but in every community, there’s a little bit of competition, whether it’s in games or rankings. But, if we think of it as a way for everyone to improve together, it can actually be a good thing!
 

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I appreciate your intention with this thread, wanting to give recognition to some of our Moderators is a nice gesture. I am positively surprised with the poll results haha. But there's a reason why we encourage our community to provide feedback anonymously via our Team Feedback subforum, furthermore, there simply is no point of comparison amongst us all, because every single Moderator is fantastic and unique in their own way. And each of us has a different approach to our responsibilities, hence why some may be more visible than others in specific platforms.

The real winner of your poll should be all Mods, because they all already are exceptional enough to volunteer their efforts and time toward a cause they believe in. With that happy note and appreciating all of the positive messages brought forth in this thread as well as the constructive criticism, I will be locking this and discouraging people from attempting to compare us as a team again, or find sole individuals who deserve more praise, because there aren't any.

With much love,
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