Bedrock Why does the report system and cheat detection suck

[BobfreyJoniam]

Sorry right, but I was just killed by an invisible person on Skywars, I know they were purposely invisible because I both hit them and was hit, heard eating noises and saw blocks being placed and saw sprinting particles

They knew they were hacking as dictated by this screenshot after they killed me

Why does the anti-cheat suck so hard and allow this sort of thing to happen, but the slightest lag kicks you out?

My suggestion is to have a better anti-cheat basically

The best part is, I can't report them because they were invisible and i never had a chance to record video

Good job CubeCraft

 

[BobfreyJoniam]

This was posted in chat after I was killed, nobody else was alive at the time

 

[Jospop]

Friend, not everything is perfect, but to tell the truth the AntiCheat is failing a little but it is also minimal, the AntiCheat has to continue and catch it / The Moderators are more active in 1.14.4 since there will be more users consent and it does not reach the day for 1.8 but don't worry it will resolve sooner or later

 

[Dubby Plays]

@Jospop36 1) this is Bedrock, not Java.
2) Bedrock has normally the double if not even the triple of the average Java players online,
3) The anti-cheat is not perfect, because there's no anti-cheat on Bedrock currently.

@BobfreyJoniam you can't know if an invisible player is using hacks or an ivnisible skins. On Minecraft Bedrock 1.13+, there is a bug that somehow makes you completely invisible on skin, armor, items held and nametag. And for some reason, the player affected by this bug may not even see himself as invisible, like others does. Even if you suspect he knows it, without a video evidence is not enough to estabilish if he was cheating or not, and even with a video evidence, if I was the staff, I wouldn't ban them immediatly knowing what's going on Bedrock.

 

[Ellie Williams]

Even if there was an anti-cheat on Bedrock, it would not ban the offending player immediately. This is to ensure that whoever is hacking does not know what caused the ban, thus the developers of the hacked clients will not know where to improve.

 

[TeamTMS]

Hi there,
Sentinel (CubeCraft’s anti-cheat system) is currently on Bedrock. Sentinel on both platforms is being improved on by the developers regularly. The problem is that CubeCraft have to develop Sentinel to do the same thing in two different coding languages, Java being in Java, and Bedrock being in C++. Bedrock is slightly harder to program anti-cheat on, because the developers have to be aware of the different devices and what abilities they have. Apologies if you have been kicked for lagging, Sentinel detects that it’s teleportation cheating.
Anti-cheat is one of CubeCraft’s greatest concerns, and they are actually looking for more helpers and moderators for that very reason. However, if players do find a cheater on CubeCraft Bedrock Edition, they can report them at the Bedrock Report forum, which helps the server greatly.
Thankyou for you’re suggestion :).

 

[Dubby Plays]

@Tom Dunkins about "sentinel anti-cheat is on bedrock":

Spoiler

 

[RelatedNoobs]

There is no anti-cheat but rubik_cube_man said he is working very hard to implement it so hopefully it will be here in the future!! :)

I’m the meantime I’d like more staff to spend time in bedrock.. like helpers. We need more people to help the community and the hacker situation.

 

[GratefulCoast]

Bedrock has more members than java comparatively and also there is no fully working anti cheat system.It is still in development.Some use Invis skins for purpose but some have issues so can't tell that easily whether they are hacking or bugged.

 

[AsticFqll]

Yeah, there are still a lot of hackers on Cubecraft

 

[Popcornman467]

@Jospop36 1) this is Bedrock, not Java.
2) Bedrock has normally the double if not even the triple of the average Java players online,
3) The anti-cheat is not perfect, because there's no anti-cheat on Bedrock currently.

@BobfreyJoniam you can't know if an invisible player is using hacks or an ivnisible skins. On Minecraft Bedrock 1.13+, there is a bug that somehow makes you completely invisible on skin, armor, items held and nametag. And for some reason, the player affected by this bug may not even see himself as invisible, like others does. Even if you suspect he knows it, without a video evidence is not enough to estabilish if he was cheating or not, and even with a video evidence, if I was the staff, I wouldn't ban them immediatly knowing what's going on Bedrock.

honestly it would be worse if sentinel was on bedrock because sentinel sucks at it's job.

 

[DarkStray]

Sorry right, but I was just killed by an invisible person on Skywars, I know they were purposely invisible because I both hit them and was hit, heard eating noises and saw blocks being placed and saw sprinting particles

They knew they were hacking as dictated by this screenshot after they killed me
View attachment 106743
Why does the anti-cheat suck so hard and allow this sort of thing to happen, but the slightest lag kicks you out?

My suggestion is to have a better anti-cheat basically

The best part is, I can't report them because they were invisible and i never had a chance to record video

Good job CubeCraft

This is a Bug not a Hack, i have screenshots to prove this, on The Mobile version of bedrock it gives you popups informing you of a render error

ED: I will get the photos and share them here

 

[DarkStray]

This is a Bug not a Hack, i have screenshots to prove this, on The Mobile version of bedrock it gives you popups informing you of a render error

ED: I will get the photos and share them here

Here are the Photos

 

[DarkStray]

Hi there,
Sentinel (CubeCraft’s anti-cheat system) is currently on Bedrock. Sentinel on both platforms is being improved on by the developers regularly. The problem is that CubeCraft have to develop Sentinel to do the same thing in two different coding languages, Java being in Java, and Bedrock being in C++. Bedrock is slightly harder to program anti-cheat on, because the developers have to be aware of the different devices and what abilities they have. Apologies if you have been kicked for lagging, Sentinel detects that it’s teleportation cheating.
Anti-cheat is one of CubeCraft’s greatest concerns, and they are actually looking for more helpers and moderators for that very reason. However, if players do find a cheater on CubeCraft Bedrock Edition, they can report them at the Bedrock Report forum, which helps the server greatly.
Thankyou for you’re suggestion :).

You don't get kicked by Sentinel by lagging, you get disconnected because the wifi connection was lost for a short second

 

[saztper9]

Even if there was an anti-cheat on Bedrock, it would not ban the offending player immediately. This is to ensure that whoever is hacking does not know what caused the ban, thus the developers of the hacked clients will not know where to improve.

the problem is, alot of hackers know what hacks banwaves and what dont banwave, so its kinda pointless

 

[GHSpaghetti]

I don't see why if there is no active sentinel on bedrock why all of the staff members are focussed on moderating java and completely neglect Bedrock

 

[TheBrownster]

I don't see why if there is no active sentinel on bedrock why all of the staff members are focussed on moderating java and completely neglect Bedrock

I know that I personally do not like Bedrock. I don’t like the changes mojang put in or the way it plays. Because of that, I would stick to exclusively java. Quite a few of the staff members also were staff before bedrock was a thing so they might feel the same way. Cube would just need more players to become staff that play bedrock.
Moderating is a volunteer position, so I do not support telling staff members who do not want to play java/bedrock to play that version. Plus it takes experience with that version to be able to tell cheats from bugs or skill. A mod who has never played bedrock might ban people for scaffold since they do not know that is a feature in bedrock.

 

[GHSpaghetti]

I know that I personally do not like Bedrock. I don’t like the changes mojang put in or the way it plays. Because of that, I would stick to exclusively java. Quite a few of the staff members also were staff before bedrock was a thing so they might feel the same way. Cube would just need more players to become staff that play bedrock.
Moderating is a volunteer position, so I do not support telling staff members who do not want to play java/bedrock to play that version. Plus it takes experience with that version to be able to tell cheats from bugs or skill. A mod who has never played bedrock might ban people for scaffold since they do not know that is a feature in bedrock.

It's quite disappointing how there are only 18 staff members that mod this server overall most, if not all only play java and there is little to no focus on finding staff to moderate bedrock, there are plenty of people that would love to that but are just ignored because staff don't even want to consider it

 

[TheBrownster]

It's quite disappointing how there are only 18 staff members that mod this server overall most, if not all only play java and there is little to no focus on finding staff to moderate bedrock, there are plenty of people that would love to that but are just ignored because staff don't even want to consider it

I don't believe they go out searching for staff. It is a volunteer position, so people have to come and apply for it if they meet the requirements. I believe one of the helpers currently (SoundToTheThirdPower) is a bedrock player, though I could be wrong about that. So it is not that they are ignoring people, it is just they have to meet the requirements and actually apply for the position.

 

[GHSpaghetti]

I don't believe they go out searching for staff. It is a volunteer position, so people have to come and apply for it if they meet the requirements. I believe one of the helpers currently (SoundToTheThirdPower) is a bedrock player, though I could be wrong about that. So it is not that they are ignoring people, it is just they have to meet the requirements and actually apply for the position.

Yes Sound is a personal friend of mine, but she is literally the only person representing the bedrock community, there are plenty of people that want to apply but are rejected for reasons like maybe they said something that can be construed as offensive.
They really don't seem to have any sort of priority trying to find staff