[Big Suggestion] How to make OP less gear based and more fun

[Qin Shihuangdi]

I already know this suggestion is going to be 50/50, but let's do it anyway.

So, currently has one good weapon.

The Power 5 Bow. If someone knows how to use it correctly with decent armor, they're almost guranteed a win.
The Power 5 takes the title of:
- Strongest overall damage
- Best DPS
- Great range
- Good combo tool
- Semi-cheap

Before ANYONE says "Just nerf the Power 5 bow" - STOP

The power 5 bow is the ONLY thing that keeps OP from being the mode where nobody but tryhards, hackers, chuggers, and (in certain cases) mid campers can win.

So, let's come up with a solution to this problem.

First off, like @HScrozzy has said, add some better melee weapons. IMO, all weapons should be advanced one tier, meaning the Sharp 2 Wood Sword would become Sharp 2 Stone, which would become Sharp 2 Iron, etc. Replacing the 64 diamond sword would be an axe specifically meant for breaking iron and diamond armor. It would act as a simple Sharp 2 diamond axe against leather and chain, but as soon as one piece of iron or diamond is put on, some nasty effects will begin. Each fully charged hit will do 5 armor damage and a crit will do 8 or 10. BUT ONLY AGAINST IRON / DIAMOND.

So yea, let me know what you think

 

[MClicious]

I'm a little confused on this suggestion.
Power 5 bow is too op, but you don't want to nerf it. You want to make the other weapons better.
I agree with this suggestion. Better weapons in op will mean that the armor will be less protective. This would lead to easier kills and quicker games.
OP takes too long and i think this suggestion would help make it quicker be improving the weapons power.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

I'm a little confused on this suggestion.
Power 5 bow is too op, but you don't want to nerf it. You want to make the other weapons better.
I agree with this suggestion. Better weapons in op will mean that the armor will be less protective. This would lead to easier kills and quicker games.
OP takes too long and i think this suggestion would help make it quicker be improving the weapons power.

You said it perfectly, except the Power 5. The Power 5 is perfect, everything else is too weak

 

[LEO_KILLER_01]

You said it perfectly, except the Power 5. The Power 5 is perfect, everything else is too weak

Thats true power 5 is perfect and I love it :D

 

[Injunction]

Nerfing armour doesn't seem to keep up with the logic of the punch 5 bow being so OP but stopping problems with midcampers if someone can midcamp now and kill you quicker with their bow so doing this seems to go against your logic of the problem of nerfing the Power 5 bow

The Power 5 is perfect, everything else is too weak

Okay now I'm REALLY confused
if everything else is too weak than why are we making armour even weaker?
if you meant every weapon other than the punch bow than why add a slightly stronger weapon for the highest price?
especially to the tone of an axe with a slower attack speed

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

Nerfing armour doesn't seem to keep up with the logic of the punch 5 bow being so OP but stopping problems with midcampers if someone can midcamp now and kill you quicker with their bow so doing this seems to go against your logic of the problem of nerfing the Power 5 bow

Okay now I'm REALLY confused
if everything else is too weak than why are we making armour even weaker?
if you meant every weapon other than the punch bow than why add a slightly stronger weapon for the highest price?
especially to the tone of an axe with a slower attack speed

We're not nerfing the power 5 bow. We're buffing everything else. Doesn't help mid campers

 

[_The13thDoctor_]

I already know this suggestion is going to be 50/50, but let's do it anyway.

So, currently has one good weapon.

The Power 5 Bow. If someone knows how to use it correctly with decent armor, they're almost guranteed a win.
The Power 5 takes the title of:
- Strongest overall damage
- Best DPS
- Great range
- Good combo tool
- Semi-cheap

Before ANYONE says "Just nerf the Power 5 bow" - STOP

The power 5 bow is the ONLY thing that keeps OP from being the mode where nobody but tryhards, hackers, chuggers, and (in certain cases) mid campers can win.

So, let's come up with a solution to this problem.

First off, like @HScrozzy has said, add some better melee weapons. IMO, all weapons should be advanced one tier, meaning the Sharp 2 Wood Sword would become Sharp 2 Stone, which would become Sharp 2 Iron, etc. Replacing the 64 diamond sword would be an axe specifically meant for breaking iron and diamond armor. It would act as a simple Sharp 2 diamond axe against leather and chain, but as soon as one piece of iron or diamond is put on, some nasty effects will begin. Each fully charged hit will do 5 armor damage and a crit will do 8 or 10. BUT ONLY AGAINST IRON / DIAMOND.

So yea, let me know what you think

No... OP is decent... I like emerald maps because I can get emerald items wich make it 3-4 4 shot iron dudes... Rn I think this suggestions is...

 

[Injunction]

We're not nerfing the power 5 bow. We're buffing everything else. Doesn't help mid campers

Now I am even more confused
I 1 didn't say nerf the power bows I said having all armour nerfed would allow people with power bows to camp easier since armour being weaker than means that if the camper had a power 5 bow than it would be easier to kill
but that isn't the only reason I am confused
first you say we nerf the armour so it can actually take more damage to melee weapons, but than you just said buff everything
so which do you want Buffer armour or nerf it?

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

Now I am even more confused
I 1 didn't say nerf the power bows I said having all armour nerfed would allow people with power bows to camp easier since armour being weaker than means that if the camper had a power 5 bow than it would be easier to kill
but that isn't the only reason I am confused
first you say we nerf the armour so it can actually take more damage to melee weapons, but than you just said buff everything
so which do you want Buffer armour or nerf it?

Armor isn't going anywhere. We're just buffing weapons

 

[Injunction]

Armor isn't going anywhere. We're just buffing weapons

okay
well I asked that in the original post but than you just stayed saying "Everything" which to me doesn't mean only melee weapons

I personally think this could just be a complete separate mode, where weapons will be stronger and cost a bit less but armour will be strong yet cost a bit more, along with maybe no bows in that mode who knows

 

[Maaarijn]

the Sharp 2 Wood Sword would become Sharp 2 Stone, which would become Sharp 2 Iron, etc.

I really agree with that. Anyways I don't really care about OP as it will stay an instant leave for me.

 

[Lilleh__]

The problem with this suggestion is you didn't specify what gamemode its for, but its for eggwars. I'm sure that players who have never played eggwars will have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[ChasingRainbows]

Okay for everyone who is confused, here is what is going on:

Most of the weapons in OP are dogshit. The only two that aren't are the power V and punch bows. All the melee weapons are terrible. To fix this, there needs to be a buff to melee weapons.Here are my two ideas on how to fix it:

One option is to just increase the sharpness on the current weapons, not change anything else.

A more complicated (but IMO better) option is to reduce the price of the sharp 5 to 32 diamonds, add a 48 diamond sharpness V (or VI) axe, and then add a truly OP sword for 64 diamonds. Like sharp VII and fire aspect, or a sharp VI sword that does something special, like extra damage to armor, or gives a wither effect or you can right click with it and it does something to enemies near you, cubecraft can really get creative with this.

 

[Facelurite]

Or give us a weapon that does 10 durability points per hit. Give us potions , more tipped arrows. Levitation arrows . Do not nerf Power 5.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

bump

 

[A pigeon]

Power 10 will solve everything.

 

[Qin Shihuangdi]

bump

 

[ChasingRainbows]

I came up with something else: add a "kill stick" to OP for 64 dias. This "kill stick" should be a wooden sword that subtracts 4 hearts from an opponents health, regardless of armor.

 

[Passer]

This is cool but the sharp 5 sord is op to so with that and the power 5 bow you are really hard to beat but other from that this idea is good!