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Flimsychip

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Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having a bad time with the new menus 😅
I changed the style of the category menus to make them load faster, by removing those large images. As well as making it easier to navigate them by reducing the amount of scrolling you have to do, and by keeping your last selected category open.

I thought those changes would be really nice for the BedWars shop and I tested it on my phone to make sure mobile players would be okay. That being said if you've played with the new shop for a while and you still don't like it. I'd love to hear what you're struggling with so maybe I can make it better 💕
Well actually with loot menu aswell it takes longer to find one certain item than it did before, and is too complicated
 

coolzombiee

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Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having a bad time with the new menus 😅
I changed the style of the category menus to make them load faster, by removing those large images. As well as making it easier to navigate them by reducing the amount of scrolling you have to do, and by keeping your last selected category open.

I thought those changes would be really nice for the BedWars shop and I tested it on my phone to make sure mobile players would be okay. That being said if you've played with the new shop for a while and you still don't like it. I'd love to hear what you're struggling with so maybe I can make it better 💕
I have 2 things. First one is bedwars shop ui, It should be changed especially on mobile because it takes too long. My Second suggestion is social menu needs to have smaller icons, my social menu is very messed up and no mods have responded to my report I made a week ago
 

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Hi there! I'm sorry to hear you're having a bad time with the new menus 😅
I changed the style of the category menus to make them load faster, by removing those large images. As well as making it easier to navigate them by reducing the amount of scrolling you have to do, and by keeping your last selected category open.

I thought those changes would be really nice for the BedWars shop and I tested it on my phone to make sure mobile players would be okay. That being said if you've played with the new shop for a while and you still don't like it. I'd love to hear what you're struggling with so maybe I can make it better 💕
My biggest problem is that the buttons are way to small
 

SuperSuccubus

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Well actually with loot menu aswell it takes longer to find one certain item than it did before, and is too complicated
I see you own quite a lot of stuff. Is it easier for you to use the 'Loot By Type' section of the loot menu to find your stuff? What exactly is causing you to have trouble finding specific items?

My biggest problem is that the buttons are way to small
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You mean these buttons on the left? What device are you playing on? What kind of phone?

I have 2 things. First one is bedwars shop ui, It should be changed especially on mobile because it takes too long. My Second suggestion is social menu needs to have smaller icons, my social menu is very messed up and no mods have responded to my report I made a week ago
The new menu should be faster than the old one. What's making it take long for you?
I'm working on fixing the social menu now, I found your bug report
 
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coolzombiee

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I see you own quite a lot of stuff. Is it easier for you to use the 'Loot By Type' section of the loot menu to find your stuff? What exactly is causing you to have trouble finding specific items?


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You mean these buttons on the left? What device are you playing on? What kind of phone?


The new menu should be faster than the old one. What's making it take long for you?
I'm working on fixing the social menu now, I found your bug report
Thank you! Also what I meant was in bed wars the icons were pretty small using a mobile device so it took longer
 

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I changed the style of the category menus to make them load faster, by removing those large images. As well as making it easier to navigate them by reducing the amount of scrolling you have to do, and by keeping your last selected category open.
While I generally support that idea, and don't think its bad, with UI generally speaking usability should come before optimisation. Firstly ensure the user is as comfortable with it and can operate it as easily as possible before you consider things like loading times.

What I am about to say is NOT intended in an insulting way, but there is a reason why UI design is normally handled by dedicated designers rather than developers. Not saying that you can't do it, I am also not trying to say or even imply that you are in any way bad at your job just so we are clear, but a designer has a better idea of what a user would want to see and what works best for them because that's what they are taught and trained to look for and because that's their primary job.

Developers, primarily look at functionality and efficiency (including things such as loading time), which is perfectly normal and perfectly reasonable, its part of the job, but you need to get the best out of "both worlds" which is something a developer alone may not always be able to do.
 

SuperSuccubus

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While I generally support that idea, and don't think its bad, with UI generally speaking usability should come before optimisation. Firstly ensure the user is as comfortable with it and can operate it as easily as possible before you consider things like loading times.

What I am about to say is NOT intended in an insulting way, but there is a reason why UI design is normally handled by dedicated designers rather than developers. Not saying that you can't do it, I am also not trying to say or even imply that you are in any way bad at your job just so we are clear, but a designer has a better idea of what a user would want to see and what works best for them because that's what they are taught and trained to look for and because that's their primary job.

Developers, primarily look at functionality and efficiency (including things such as loading time), which is perfectly normal and perfectly reasonable, its part of the job, but you need to get the best out of "both worlds" which is something a developer alone may not always be able to do.
Even though I'm credited as being a Content Developer on the CubeCraft team, I'm actually a game design graduate from Breda University where I specialized in technical design. I agree with you though, in a larger company you'd have a dedicated UI/UX designer working on this sort of thing. Either way to give you some history;

The big UI update we did in 2021 was very focussed on mobile users, but one gripe I had was with the bulky category buttons, they never sat quite right with me. (and I made them) Besides that, community often complained about their performance, which is why I was motivated to improve both it's UX and performance. To quote Shigeru Miyamoto 'A good idea is something that does not solve just one single problem, but rather can solve multiple problems at once.'

So for the past 4 months I've been toying with different ideas and we eventually landed on this implementation. Because most players don't own that much loot, and might not know which loot types are used in what games, we decided to bundle loot together by game. With the old menus that wasn't really possible, because you'd be scrolling for an hour before finding the category you're looking for. Another advantage of the text-based dropdown layout is it's flexibility. We can use our custom glyphs in the category titles and each category can have sub-categories as well, like you see in the main loot menu.

As expected, there's a lot of criticism regarding these changes and I'm reading a lot, if not all of it. What's important to me here is figuring out what's frustrating players and finding ways to move forward while alleviating that frustration. Don't worry, I'm not taking any comment personally, haha. Honestly I'm just glad to see people are so passionate about the CubeCraft. Generally I'm not very active on the forums or Discord, but trust me, I'm always reading messages and listening to player feedback. Of course it's impossible for me to make something everybody loves, but I'll try my darndest to make the server better one small step at a time 💙
 

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Even though I'm credited as being a Content Developer on the CubeCraft team, I'm actually a game design graduate from Breda University where I specialized in technical design. I agree with you though, in a larger company you'd have a dedicated UI/UX designer working on this sort of thing. Either way to give you some history;

The big UI update we did in 2021 was very focussed on mobile users, but one gripe I had was with the bulky category buttons, they never sat quite right with me. (and I made them) Besides that, community often complained about their performance, which is why I was motivated to improve both it's UX and performance. To quote Shigeru Miyamoto 'A good idea is something that does not solve just one single problem, but rather can solve multiple problems at once.'

So for the past 4 months I've been toying with different ideas and we eventually landed on this implementation. Because most players don't own that much loot, and might not know which loot types are used in what games, we decided to bundle loot together by game. With the old menus that wasn't really possible, because you'd be scrolling for an hour before finding the category you're looking for. Another advantage of the text-based dropdown layout is it's flexibility. We can use our custom glyphs in the category titles and each category can have sub-categories as well, like you see in the main loot menu.

As expected, there's a lot of criticism regarding these changes and I'm reading a lot, if not all of it. What's important to me here is figuring out what's frustrating players and finding ways to move forward while alleviating that frustration. Don't worry, I'm not taking any comment personally, haha. Honestly I'm just glad to see people are so passionate about the CubeCraft. Generally I'm not very active on the forums or Discord, but trust me, I'm always reading messages and listening to player feedback. Of course it's impossible for me to make something everybody loves, but I'll try my darndest to make the server better one small step at a time 💙
That is probably the single best thing I have ever read written by a staff or dev team member.

Keep up the good work then.👍
 

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Even though I'm credited as being a Content Developer on the CubeCraft team, I'm actually a game design graduate from Breda University where I specialized in technical design. I agree with you though, in a larger company you'd have a dedicated UI/UX designer working on this sort of thing. Either way to give you some history;

The big UI update we did in 2021 was very focussed on mobile users, but one gripe I had was with the bulky category buttons, they never sat quite right with me. (and I made them) Besides that, community often complained about their performance, which is why I was motivated to improve both it's UX and performance. To quote Shigeru Miyamoto 'A good idea is something that does not solve just one single problem, but rather can solve multiple problems at once.'

So for the past 4 months I've been toying with different ideas and we eventually landed on this implementation. Because most players don't own that much loot, and might not know which loot types are used in what games, we decided to bundle loot together by game. With the old menus that wasn't really possible, because you'd be scrolling for an hour before finding the category you're looking for. Another advantage of the text-based dropdown layout is it's flexibility. We can use our custom glyphs in the category titles and each category can have sub-categories as well, like you see in the main loot menu.

As expected, there's a lot of criticism regarding these changes and I'm reading a lot, if not all of it. What's important to me here is figuring out what's frustrating players and finding ways to move forward while alleviating that frustration. Don't worry, I'm not taking any comment personally, haha. Honestly I'm just glad to see people are so passionate about the CubeCraft. Generally I'm not very active on the forums or Discord, but trust me, I'm always reading messages and listening to player feedback. Of course it's impossible for me to make something everybody loves, but I'll try my darndest to make the server better one small step at a time 💙
Maybe add like a slider to change the size of the menus?
 
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