Disallow teaming in FFA modes

[Commissioned]

Hi,

I suggest creating a rule disallowing teaming in FFA. Currently, every single FFA you go into there is bound to be a team, which is incredibly annoying. I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated by many members of the FFA community if this suggestion was implemented.

Thanks for reading,
Commissioned

 

[Ronzo]

I agree

 

[Eli]

Hi,

I suggest creating a rule disallowing teaming in FFA. Currently, every single FFA you go into there is bound to be a team, which is incredibly annoying. I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated by many members of the FFA community if this suggestion was implemented.

Thanks for reading,
Commissioned

I totally agree this should be a rule but, it would be quite difficult to obtain evidence to prove someone is teaming in FFA. Afterall, pepople are just hitting everyone else randomly. Someone's behaviorist in FFA can be open to many interpretations.

 

[Commissioned]

I totally agree this should be a rule but, it would be quite difficult to obtain evidence to prove someone is teaming in FFA. Afterall, pepople are just hitting everyone else randomly. Someone's behaviorist in FFA can be open to many interpretations.

Usually teamers are frolicking together before anything happens, so it's not hard to gather evidence.

 

[Reindeer // Paige]

I do agree with this.

Yet, it would be very difficult to implement. You find that teams are just WAY too common in FFA.
If this was to be considered as a rule we must consider:

How would this rule be made recognisable?
What would the punishment track be?
How would staff monitor this?
What is considered 'teaming'?
Would the rule be taken out of context in multiple situations?

Whilst I agree with this rule the execution of it would need to be thorough. It would need to be done properly. I do not feel it will be implemented just due to the high volume of work needed to enforce it. However, the pros do balance this out if you consider it but from the staff point of view, I feel it would not be deemed as worth the effort.
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[Deleted member 352903]

I'm neutral
I like to team with my friends to kill tryhards but I also think it's quite unfair D:

 

[TheDarkSavage]

Yes, I would like FFA much more.

 

[Soeshi]

Big teams are very difficult to kill, I thought about this earlier this week so I totally agree.

 

[Commissioned]

How would this rule be made recognisable?

huh? How does one "recognise" a rule?

What would the punishment track be?

The same as the existing teaming rule, so 1 day > 7 days > 30 days > perm

How would staff monitor this?

When you say monitor do you mean how they would catch these players, or?

What is considered 'teaming'?

Teaming is defined as intentionally working together with an enemy player in a solo mode game

Would the rule be taken out of context in multiple situations?

ok hun please ask your questions so they can't mean at least 300 different things this is starting to annoy me very much

 

[Injunction]

Big teams are very difficult to kill, I thought about this earlier this week so I totally agree.

Well big teams are also hard to report
Teams of somewhere from 7-15 people is a big team in my opinion
To report each of them is extremely difficult

huh? How does one "recognise" a rule?

I believe she means people recognizing this is a rule
It would be abruptly added in the middle of a game that teaming is not currently against the rules
How would half the players of FFA whom aren’t on the forums know this is a rule

The same as the existing teaming rule, so 1 day > 7 days > 30 days > perm

that seems very excessive

ok hun please ask your questions so they can't mean at least 300 different things this is starting to annoy me very much

I have no trouble understanding any of the questions, so it isn’t like she is a asking questions that are intentionally hard for you to understand


Also for your reply on what is teaming that doesn’t really help

Since if 2 people aren’t fighting that doesn’t mean they are teaming in normal solo
This is a game inwhich the line between showing someone something cool and 2 players actually teaming becomes obscured

When you say monitor do you mean how they would catch these players, or?

This more loops back to the previous question
If 1 the thin Line of what is teaming and what isn’t would also be hard for staff to watch

Also think about how many teamers there are
How could staff get to all of them

There are so many FFA games to attend to
Even with reports you are still at an insane influx of reports


This is the sort of reason I have always been against it
The complications of it really make it a nearly impossible task

 

[Commissioned]

I believe she means people recognizing this is a rule
It would be abruptly added in the middle of a game that teaming is not currently against the rules
How would half the players of FFA whom aren’t on the forums know this is a rule

Perhaps a message in chat beamed to players every 10 mins

To report each of them is extremely difficult

Better than reporting none of them

that seems very excessive

A 1 day ban to start is hardly excessive

Since if 2 people aren’t fighting that doesn’t mean they are teaming in normal solo
This is a game inwhich the line between showing someone something cool and 2 players actually teaming becomes obscured

Obviously only reports where it is obvious the players are teaming would be accepted.

How could staff get to all of them

They don't need to, that's why reports exist...

 

[Shallidor]

I do agree that it's unfair to team in FFA, but I think this is almost impossible to actually disallow. Proving actual teaming is extremely difficult, as said before.
So I am neutral to this.

Also what about Assassination? It's even more unfair there, because you lose all your stuff when you die.

 

[Injunction]

A 1 day ban to start is hardly excessive

I am saying it is excessive to administer a perm ban for this
Guess why
Majority of players aren’t going to care not to team because you once again really can’t regulate it

Perhaps a message in chat beamed to players every 10 mins

Better than reporting none of them

A 1 day ban to start is hardly excessive

Obviously only reports where it is obvious the players are teaming would be accepted.

They don't need to, that's why reports exist...

I know reports exist
Did you read this

Even with reports you are still at an insane influx of reports

reporting is taken into account with staff being unable to get them all

They need to actually attend to the evidence which sure 5 minutes at max isn’t to much until you remember the total amount of added

Better than reporting none of them

No it isn’t

Have you not noticed how lazy people are
Also saying better than reporting none of them really is dependant on how annoyed the player would be with them



Also “reports that are only obviously teaming” is basically dodging the question

There is no way to see what a player intends

2 players will commonly than be banned because they are both just targeting you since you have annoyed them each

You are an easy target to kill so multiple people want to kill you

There are so many reasons people will attempt to “team” that there is no distinction

 

[Sophie]

I don't think it should be punishable, here's why:
-Teams comprise a massive portion of the player-base. You'd be alienating so many people that it could actually kill the game for everybody
-The game's name implies that every legal play-style is allowed. If you begin punishing certain play-styles then the name no longer represents what the game is about
-The rules are poorly organised as it is. If they were to now read "Teaming is allowed in all games except team-based variants and FFA", it makes the rules harder to remember, because they no longer follow any semblance of logic. I'd rather have fewer restrictions than have to check before doing any activity just to make sure I'm not violating some obscure rule that has been added in the past six days since I last played
-Teaming isn't that bad anymore, considering the Wizard can no longer super-soldier their friends with speed potions, and the Beast kit is actually beatable with kits other than the Beast itself now
-Teaming can be difficult to report, since truces and teams are completely different things
-Do we really want to encourage the "neighbourhood watch" of the server to flock over to FFA, with the only intent being to report rule-breakers?

I know a lot of teams just huddle around in a big area doing nothing at all most of the time, but I feel a better solution is to give them something to do, rather than getting rid of them. There are definitely some positives that can be addressed in this discussion, but in the long run, banning teams would hurt everybody.

Most of the people in this thread are considering how this would affect them, and are neglecting to think about how it'll affect the game as a whole.

 

[Huns]

Hi,

I suggest creating a rule disallowing teaming in FFA. Currently, every single FFA you go into there is bound to be a team, which is incredibly annoying. I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated by many members of the FFA community if this suggestion was implemented.

Thanks for reading,
Commissioned

I agree because i am always getting killed by a team in FFA

 

[Sophie]

I agree because i am always getting killed by a team in FFA

They should also ban swords because sometimes I die to them

 

[Huns]

They should also ban swords because sometimes I die to them

i would also like that they will remove potions.

 

[Sophie]

i would also like that they will remove potions.

and bows

 

[Huns]

and bows

yeess!! xd. finally someone who understands me

 

[Lilleh__]

-1 after all FFA means free for all.