So you can learn this pretty normally
No. Any form of clicking other than just normally tapping your mouse can't be learned "pretty normally", though I suppose that depends on what you define as "normal".
To me, a skill that can be learned normally is one you develop naturally by just playing the game, NOT watching YT tutorial, NOT specifically training and practicing to become better, just the act of entering a normal match of any given minigame, and just playing it normally.
I'd argue to say that stuff like hit selecting, timing hits, and reducing aren't very natural to learn.
I am inclined to agree, but from experience, to do well in most fights, hit selecting is not entirely neccessary to do well, and most certainly not neccessary to not do badly, and I am not entirely sure what you mean by timing hits. Last I checked, on java 1.9+ its pretty natural because the game kind of tells you that you gotta time your hits to get the most damage.
And on bedrock and java before 1.9 its pretty obvious your hit speed isn't equal to your click speed, because there is a 0.5 second delay between each hit (though I suppose that also varies from server to server, I played a couple games on lifeboat and there the cooldown is much shorter than that).
In other words: you're right, but those skills aren't a necessity to do well.
The only skill necessary to do well which I think is not learned naturally is jump resetting.
There is no way a player naturally will ever figure out that is a thing.
I myself despite nearly 2000 hours on bedrock and hundreds of hours of PS3 Edition and Pocket Edition before I got a PC took an embarassingly long time to find out its a thing and that people who take little KB aren't always anti-KB cheaters. I literally only found like in early 2023, and only took the effort to try and learn it towards the end of that same year, and I sitll find myself forgetting to do it most fights because of how unintuitive it feels to do. Normally you'd think "if I jump, I will take more KB, so I won't do that", but it turns out jumping with the right timing practically nullifies it.
I will explain with an example:
Trying too hard is when instead of buying armor, a sword, a pickaxe and building a basic defense in eggwars you rush people as soon as you can get your hands on enough blocks.
Another example would be a game of lucky islands, when instead of breaking the blocks on your island and the food and blocks block in your inventory you instead rush either the middle or other players as soon as you can, and even select the kit that allows you to do that very thing.
Basically: trying too hard is when, instead of playing for fun, you play with a specific playstyle and strategy that is supposed to ensure the quickest victory at the expense of actually engaging with the game and at the expense of the enjoyment of other players.
Something that would be an example of just being skilled while also not "trying hard" would be when you don't rush people super quickly, don't try super hard to survive when you get close to being eliminated, just play eggwars "nice and slow" so-to-say for a lack of a better description, and with that playstyle still come out on top in most games.
I feel like not trying hard to win just kind of ruins the fun of it
I actually with you on this already to an extent, I literally said that without at least some degree of trying there is no point in playing the game. trying HARD is absolutely problematic, though, because it ruins the game for just about everyone involved except the person trying hard.
You are saying that trying too hard is part of the reason that the server is unfun for many players, but for the majority of games, trying too hard isn't the issue, it really is just a skill issue.
Alright, let me hit you with two example, one is anecdotal, one is less anecdotal, though it depends if you view developer-provided explanations behind updates as anecdotes or proof.
Lets start with the anecdote: so, recently I play a lot of giga blockwars. There, the player base is small enough to come across the same people quite often. Well, there is this one really good player we got, he is so good that a lot of players I see regularly are aware of him and are a bit scared whenever they notice he is not on their team, me myself included.
Yet you don't exactly hear people complaining about a sweat problem in giga blockwars, or really any given blockwars gamemode. This player is really good, he is easily better than most of the other good players I am aware of in that community, and much better than I will ever be.
The reason that happens is because he is not really trying hard, quite the opposite, as good as he is, he often chooses not to try really hard.
On CTF, he only goes for flags if he notices that the opponent is so easy there is no point in dragging the game on or when he notices his teammates aren't skilled enough to grab it themselves. Not to mention he usually only picks easy fights.
Whenever he encounters a more skilled player then, unless he has an advantage in gear, he will often disengage from the fight. And whenever he is close to dying, that's the only time he tries really hard, though he only does it with high level gear, which is the one time trying hard is understandable as the recent blockwars updates made that gear very painful and time consuming to obtain.
and on bridges he tries so little he often feels very unthreatening despite his undeniable skill.
I also don't see any players from that group I tend to encounter a lot complaining about him, only ocassionally suggesting the other good players on their team to perhaps try to take him down, but that's less a complaint about his skill, and more so a bunch of players trying to neutralise a threat.
Tl;dr: in blockwars, despite there being plenty of good players, some being so good that its scaring and worrying some of the others, noone complains about skilled players. I am yet to see a forums post saying that block wars has a problem with the game being too difficult or there being too many tryhards.
Now onto the less anecdotal example: eggwars season 2
Eggwars season 2 included changes that made the game more friendly to new players and lead to a lot of grinders quitting. Grinders being the type of player that rushes everyone as fast as possible in order to secure a win. It did so by nerfing their tactics a lot, and allowing players to defend their base easier, massively increasing the duration of a game and forcing those grinders to actually interact with the game more in order to secure a win.
Now noticed how its grinders specifically that are the problem. You see: the problem wasn't bad players being beaten by better ones itself that lead to those changes. It was rather the fact those better players were playing in ways that didn't allow the worse players to really play the game and interact with it. Basically: grinding, trying to win as fast as possible, as many times as possible, that's what ultimately lead to eggwars season 2 being introduced with changes to nerf that.
By nerfing the quick rushes and the ability to speed-run the game, the player base grew significantly while the skill based parts of the game (you know, the PvP part?) remained mostly unaffected and is still requires skill. Not to mention other skilled players fairly quickly taking the spot that the grinders so kindly left by quitting eggwars.
Yet, the only time we saw significant amounts of players leave eggwars was when bedwars introduced.
Worse players, despite still not doing super well at eggwars and still encountering tons of skilled players in that game chose to stay around, because the game was more fun now that the risk of dying in the first 2 minutes was reduced and the ability to make yourself survive longer was made easier.
Their chances of winning the game themselves didn't even grow, a bad player is still gonna lose most of the time, no matter the amount of changes done to the game, the only thing that did change was the amount of time good players needed to dedicate per game to grab those wins. Worse players, despite still being beaten most of the time, still enjoyed the game to the point of where a lot of them started playing on the server and a lot them stood around.
You see: players don't care as much if they are bad at the game if they get to have fun. Its how giga blockwars works. Its how eggwars season 2 worked, and how it succeeded.
Video games, even competitive ones, are a form of entertainment. And despite the existence of highly competitive players, most players are gonna play for that entertainment. And if the game provides... well, who cares if you lose if you can still have a fun time?
So in conclusion: no, the problem aren't the skilled players, its the players that are trying too hard, with players that are skilled AND trying too hard ruining games most.
Its not a skill issue, never has been, and I doubt it ever will be.
most of lb players don’t even play now and who u call sweat most of them auto it’s easy to use macro now cus they allowed drag click and drag is not that diff than auto alomst same thing and u probably a non who play only ctf and don’t even play egg war . Egg war got worse it’s full of hacks and ppl who use macro and don’t even get bann tho they still bad with it and bro said drag is skills 
Cc was way better before they allowed drag click and double now anyone can macro and say he is drag or double click Even if they put cps limits u still can macro best thing is to bann drag . if I see u in cc u done lil bro
