I don't say my youtube :3 Then I wont get targeted :DThey don't if I don't give them a chance to notice :3 I normally don't vote for anything in a SW game ot talk in-game.
I don't say my youtube :3 Then I wont get targeted :DThey don't if I don't give them a chance to notice :3 I normally don't vote for anything in a SW game ot talk in-game.
He got banned just half an hour ago. Basically, yep, those subtle hacks will allow them to get away unless someone knows how to identify those such as low kill aura.Well here you can see how easily a hacker can get away with shit. This is obvious proof, but ban someone? Hell no.
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/skywars-stats.156254/page-2#post-631590
He got banned just half an hour ago. Basically, yep, those subtle hacks will allow them to get away unless someone knows how to identify those such as low kill aura.
Same went for 2 hackers I've seen in the lobby and I looked both of them up. Both banned on many servers. Too bad I didn't get proof of their hacks but luckily I wasn't in any games with them.Well I saw your post there and didn't know you could check if someone was banned or not.
So the one I reported has already been banned once before on 22 augustus 2016 and his ban is already expired. So a few days later (7 september) I see him hacking, recorded it and reported him... so that's at least the second time he is hacking? He didn't give one shit about his ban.
So perm ban all the way.
Think about it, there are so many people who get unfairly banned out there because of 2 second in a video where a glitch happens or something looks like hacks but it isn't, the first ban being a week means that those players have a short ban and they can carry on playing as before. If they are a player that actually hacks, they will see the first one week ban as nothing so they will come back and hack again. This means the real hackers are the ones that get banned for a long time and the people who have been falsely banned don't get a permanent ban.
The truth is there are a lot more people than you think who get falsely banned for hacking. Its no ones fault, just bad luck that the video comes out making it look like he is hacking.
Appeals for this server weren't great before this system came in. Yes you could appeal and get unbanned but so could the hackers. All they had to do was say sorry and they wouldn't do it again and they were unbanned. Now they cant do that as easily because the system they have means they know how many times they have been banned.
Lets put it this way, you've been falsely banned because the video someone has of you makes you look like you have major reach hacks. Would you rather have a week ban that you don't really need to worry about because either way you will be able to be playing the next week, or would you want a permanent ban, have to worry about your appeal not being accepted and if it doesn't get accepted you are permanently banned for life. That's what i think the first week ban is for.
The reason there are so many hackers at the moment isn't because of the new system. It's because they had to unban everyone from before because they were banned under another set of rules.
I'm sorry if you find this confusing and i know a lot of people are going to disagree either way but honestly there is a lot of potential with this system. Its just that people aren't looking past the first ban.
That right there, ladies and gentleman.I think you misunderstand the purpose of any (not just cubecraft's) ban/ punishment / rules system. It is not to trap and ban as many hackers as possible, but to keep the games clean and hacker free. Although they sound the same, let me elaborate. If you can discourage / prevent a player from hacking, that is MUCH more valuable than waiting and then banning them after they get caught twice because it saves so much time and keeps so many games clean.
@CubePlayers Please do watch your language.
That right there, ladies and gentleman.
We ban hackers because they need to be discouraged from hacking, not because they are evil and don't deserve anything. I'm very sure there are players (even here on the forums) who stopped using hacks when they got banned / after they were unbanned.
What if I am not a girl or a boy? :o@CubePlayers Please do watch your language.
That right there, ladies and gentleman.
We ban hackers because they need to be discouraged from hacking, not because they are evil and don't deserve anything. I'm very sure there are players (even here on the forums) who stopped using hacks when they got banned / after they were unbanned.
If you have vdieo evidence then you can report a hacker. It is not that the staff don't trust you. Everybody has to have video evidence.I see so many hacker on this sever. Recently on the newest Preston moneywars he saw a fly hackers yu guys can watch tbnrflags minecraft channel and i report some hackers but the staff moderator dont trust me and dont care what i say
In future i'm going to elaborate more on what i mean by the terms i use because i'm starting to see it is my fault for not explaining what i mean. For the comment i wrote I used the name "hacker" for repeat offenders who want to test the punishment system out or the people who use cracked accounts. If they were just a one time offence hacker they would obviously stop at the first offence.I actually posted a ≈15 second video of a dude safewalking (he placed 3 blocks in the video) since that was the only recording I could capture of him. He had blatantly hacked before I could record him. My report was denied. Sorry for anecdotal evidence, but my point is that staff will not ban for suspicious / uncertain cases. If you are lagging, the staff will know. Most staff have seen lag before I hope.
I dont know about you but if I was not hacking and I was banned for hacking for 1 week, I would be extremely angry and appeal ASAP. If a glitch happens, appeal. Given the amount of real hackers I have seen, I find it hard to believe that there are that many being falsely banned. Like I said before, all you need to do is appeal.
The system can know how many times someone has been banned before whether the first ban is 1 week, 1 month, 1 year, or perma. I agree that the server should keep track of how many times a player has been banned, but I don't see how that has anything to do with the duration of the ban.
If I was not hacking and I got banned for hacking, I would be very worried / angry about a 1 week ban that goes on my record. I would much rather risk getting falsely banned than play with hackers every other game.
If they have to unban everyone who was banned under a different set of rules, that would certainly contribute to the amount of hackers, but the one week ban encourages them to come back and continue to cheat as opposed to staying clean or not coming on the server.
I think you misunderstand the purpose of any (not just cubecraft's) ban/ punishment / rules system. It is not to trap and ban as many hackers as possible, but to keep the games clean and hacker free. Although they sound the same, let me elaborate. If you can discourage / prevent a player from hacking, that is MUCH more valuable than waiting and then banning them after they get caught twice because it saves so much time and keeps so many games clean. If you just want to add hackers to your banlist, that is certainly a way to get clean games. In my opinion, the one week ban is sacrificing clean games (the ideal) for getting lots of bans in (the method). I would also argue that it is ineffective at getting rid of cheaters because of the low punishment.
I have already said this I think, but my preferred system is 1 month first offense, permanent second offense.
Hey you never know. Some teachers let their students play on the school computers once all their work is done.Students shouldn't be playing in school to begin with unless they have their own computer and they have absolutely nothing important left to do.
Also, afraid of getting banned? Record yourself or at least screenshot your F3 and menu to prove you don't have hacks on.
Most cases, no. It's usually do something else or take a break. Well, back then in elementary school that is.Hey you never know. Some teachers let their students play on the school computers once all their work is done.
Hey you never know. Some teachers let their students play on the school computers once all their work is done.
In future i'm going to elaborate more on what i mean by the terms i use because i'm starting to see it is my fault for not explaining what i mean. For the comment i wrote I used the name "hacker" for repeat offenders who want to test the punishment system out or the people who use cracked accounts. If they were just a one time offence hacker they would obviously stop at the first offence.
I also want to add i'm not summarizing the whole system, i'm trying to get across what is relevant to people. I used my example with catching out hackers because everyone was saying they wanted the hackers accounts immediately banned, no second chances. I was saying that this system is better than that because 1: It gives less stress to falsely banned players. 2: (which i don't think i ever got around to saying but i should have.) its gives a hacker a chance to redeem themselves and play fairly. 3: it gets rid of repeat hackers rather than one time only hackers.
I also never said anything about the length of the ban being related to the staff keeping track of who has been banned.
I do agree with you though that the one week invites players back to hack again and i used that as an example against the people wanting an instant permanent ban saying it is getting rid of hackers and doing what they want but the one week is also giving a hacker a chance to stop what they are doing and play fairly. Most people are just ignoring that and getting hung up on thinking the one week is a completely bad thing.
I'm just trying to get across the point that the hacker count will drop with time.
And i know people don't get banned for inadequate evidence but i also know people who have been banned who don't hack but there were a few strange hits that got them banned.