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As I said, don't have a problem with the removal of the colours. Why do you hate the respawn timer? Haven't seen a valid reason so far. They get 'inspired' by Hypixel. Read my thread about it.
Camping part is subjective.
Final part: Silly democracy ey! I agree that they should listen to both sides and they did, this is what the came up with. The respawn timer was 8s first, so that's a compromise for you.

The respawn timer was added for games with larger teams. It doesn't help too much from what I've heard. (Useful, but not a big difference.) As someone who only plays two player, it's just annoying. If you can't deal with nakeds punching you, you aren't prepared enough to take the island.

Also, you shouldn't attack an island alone unless you majorly ourgear or outskill the opposition.
 

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Please, to everyone wanting the old respawn system back, take a look at this:
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/about-the-eggwars-spawnprotection.185821/

It was just fornicating terrible and I'm extremely glad they changed it.
Finally Kronos is here! And you've brought your video evidence with you! Felt a bit surrounded by guys that weren't aware of this issue.

Great evidence, but shame that the game has to be altered to basically fit the needs for new players. Anyone who has played more as 10 matches of Eggwars should be able to deal with this.

I mean I surely didn't have that problem. Not one of them spawned with a pickaxe lol.
 
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The respawn timer was added for games with larger teams. It doesn't help too much from what I've heard. (Useful, but not a big difference.) As someone who only plays two player, it's just annoying. If you can't deal with nakeds punching you, you aren't prepared enough to take the island.

Also, you shouldn't attack an island alone unless you majorly ourgear or outskill the opposition.
I think it helps, but we can think differently about that, no problem. You are saying why it is pointless to have a respawn timer, not why it is a bad thing. I like the respawntimer, so at least one person (me) benefits from having it. To get it removed an equal amount of people shouldn't have benefit from it, as those who do. So how does it disadvantage you in a bad way?
 

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Great evidence, but shame that the game has to be altered to basically fit the needs for new players. Anyone who has played more as 10 matches of Eggwars should be able to deal with this.
if you kill someone else you can't be that new and before the system was more favouring of new players than this 1 is because just like in @KronosReeper's video there were just people using spawn protection to spam click kill anyone who got near their egg constantly since there was no respawn timer
 
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So enlighten me, how could he be better prepared? How could he deal with that situation better?

This one is really simple. Not a single one of them spawned with a pickaxe, a few blocks should have done the trick. He even tried locking them up in the spaceship which is a great idea, but he failed. You could blame the system. And once again: I'm totally fine with the new respawn system, because it doesnt seem to change anything for me personally, but there is certainly a lot more to blame then the old system ;)

I see why some people would struggle with this, but it's like any other game: You gotta master it.
 

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This one is really simple. Not a single one of them spawned with a pickaxe, a few blocks should have done the trick. He even tried locking them up in the spaceship which is a great idea, but he failed. You could blame the system. And once again: I'm totally fine with the new respawn system, because it doesnt seem to change anything for me personally, but there is certainly a lot more to blame then the old system ;)

I see why some people would struggle with this, but it's like any other game: You gotta master it.
I don't see him doing anything else that trying to block himself, hell
the video start with him nearly doing so AND HELL LOOK AT THE TITLE. So how could he have done that better?

''You should master it'' Master what? Running and blocking 3 stupid players spamclicking away at you off? if you tell anyone new to this game that that is an important 'skill' to master they will laugh at you.
 
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I don't see him doing anything else that trying to block himself, hell
the video start with him nearly doing so AND HELL LOOK AT THE TITLE. So how could he have done that better?

''You should master it'' Master what? Running and blocking 3 stupid players spamclicking away at you off? if you tell anyone new to this game that that is an important 'skill' to master they will laugh at you.

So basically change the game that the team can no longer defend their egg. Eitherway I don't care, I don't die. Yes I've mastered running and blocking ;) Have a nice day.
 
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You can suggest to bring back Sandstone. Make it cost more.

No. Sandstone should be brought back at the same price. They should make coloured clay more expensive because it's harder.

I think it helps, but we can think differently about that, no problem. You are saying why it is pointless to have a respawn timer, not why it is a bad thing. I like the respawntimer, so at least one person (me) benefits from having it. To get it removed an equal amount of people shouldn't have benefit from it, as those who do. So how does it disadvantage you in a bad way?

The problem is it gives people playing two player no chance to defend their egg. If you die, you can't even try to run away. They will have your egg destroyed and be ready to kill you before you respawn. The respawn timer ruins two player mode. (The only mode I play.) It doesn't help at all. If you and your teammate attack an island together, nakeds punching you is not a problem. They can keep the respawn timer in 3+ player games, but they should take it out of two player. It was designed for games with more players on a team after all. But honestly, who doesn't bring their teammate to attack an island? If you're going to refuse to communicate with your teammate, play singleplayer. People complain about stuff in multiplayer, but they don't organise their teams. I have one person who I ALWAYS play with, we Skype, and we only play certain maps. Why? We work together well, and those maps are the ones we're best on. We win just about every game. If you don't have someone to play with, don't complain about stuff in team games. You lost a battle against two nakeds? That's because you were alone. JUST PLAY SINGLEPLAYER! Don't request things that ruin teams when you aren't a team player.
 

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Great evidence, but shame that the game has to be altered to basically fit the needs for new players. Anyone who has played more as 10 matches of Eggwars should be able to deal with this.
Ahem,
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"New player" "noob"
Kinda strange for a player that wins 50% of his matches don't you think?



Now I'm not going to respond to comments before my comment here, because that would take too long and I feel like it has probably already been answered.

"With the new respawn system, people can't defend their eggs anymore"
Oh yes how unfair this is, a player comes to their island while avoiding all the punch bows and whatnot, killed the entire team on his own, and has a good enough pickaxe to break the egg. All the players died in a fair fight, they have no chance to defend their egg!

The enemies all fairly died and had no chance of winning anymore, however because of the old spawnprotection they can keep hitting you off the island for infinity while you can't do anything about it. To quote @Earth from this thread you guys need to read:
" Spawnprotection is nothing but a source of the most unfair, bad and cheapest wins for opponents while they clearly had no chance of winning anymore."

The spawnprotection is meant to give players a chance to escape their island or quickly make gear, and to prevent spawnkilling. NOT to defend your egg with it.

"You could just block yourself in"
Watch. The Video.
It's not a valid argument.

"With the new spawnprotection system you have no chance of running away"

You most definitely do. I don't know if you've noticed, but when you die, you still have 10 seconds of invulnerability. It just goes away when you hit someone because you were stupid enough to think you with no gear can defeat a fully equipped player attacking you.

As always, I support my arguments with proof:
My egg broke, I DID get a chance to run away and I even won the game.



https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/about-the-eggwars-spawnprotection.185821/
Just read this for once and tell me how the new respawn system isn't a giant improvement.

Out.







 
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Ahem,
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"New player" "noob"
Kinda strange for a player that wins 50% of his matches don't you think?



Now I'm not going to respond to comments before my comment here, because that would take too long and I feel like it has probably already been answered.

"With the new respawn system, people can't defend their eggs anymore"
Oh yes how unfair this is, a player comes to their island while avoiding all the punch bows and whatnot, killed the entire team on his own, and has a good enough pickaxe to break the egg. All the players died in a fair fight, they have no chance to defend their egg!

The enemies all fairly died and had no chance of winning anymore, however because of the old spawnprotection they can keep hitting you off the island for infinity while you can't do anything about it. To quote @Earth from this thread you guys need to read:
" Spawnprotection is nothing but a source of the most unfair, bad and cheapest wins for opponents while they clearly had no chance of winning anymore."

The spawnprotection is meant to give players a chance to escape their island or quickly make gear, and to prevent spawnkilling. NOT to defend your egg with it.

"You could just block yourself in"
Watch. The Video.
It's not a valid argument.

"With the new spawnprotection system you have no chance of running away"

You most definitely do. I don't know if you've noticed, but when you die, you still have 10 seconds of invulnerability. It just goes away when you hit someone because you were stupid enough to think you with no gear can defeat a fully equipped player attacking you.

As always, I support my arguments with proof:
My egg broke, I DID get a chance to run away and I even won the game.



https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/about-the-eggwars-spawnprotection.185821/
Just read this for once and tell me how the new respawn system isn't a giant improvement.

Out.

Lol. Uploads a picture of his strats. Please don't take discussions this serious and personal. I never called u a noob. Just said that you could have dealt with that situation a whole lot better.

But if you see this as a personal attack there is no point to further talk about it. Don't wanna hurt your feelings either ;)
 

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Lol. Uploads a picture of his strats. Please don't take discussions this serious and personal. I never called u a noob. Just said that you could have dealt with that situation a whole lot better.

But if you see this as a personal attack there is no point to further talk about it. Don't wanna hurt your feelings either ;)
I do not see it as a personal attack.
Anyone who has played more as 10 matches of Eggwars should be able to deal with this.
I'm just saying this is incorrect.
 
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Lol. Uploads a picture of his strats. Please don't take discussions this serious and personal. I never called u a noob. Just said that you could have dealt with that situation a whole lot better.

But if you see this as a personal attack there is no point to further talk about it. Don't wanna hurt your feelings either ;)

Considering some of your previous comments, especially a really ironic one. You are pretty much considering this a serious discussion. But point is, not everyone plays the way you do. This makes things more fair. Why do you want an easy game? I rather have a game where people can play on an equal scale than an one sided match.
 
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I do not see it as a personal attack.

I'm just saying this is incorrect.
Considering some of your previous comments, especially a really ironic one. You are pretty much considering this a serious discussion. But point is, not everyone plays the way you do. This makes things more fair. Why do you want an easy game? I rather have a game where people can play on an equal scale than an one sided match.

Easy play? The whole point of this has been that the "invincible spawn people" are way to op, and I'm saying they really aren't. The new updates makes it easier.
 
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Easy play? The whole point of this has been that the "invincible spawn people" are way to op, and I'm saying they really aren't. The new updates makes it easier.

An easy game where you don't really need armor to defend?

You don't agree that invincible spawn players are way too OP. That's fine. But considering not everyone plays the way you do, and not everyone can, I don't see any problems with making it easier for players to play equally.
 
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