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0ffense

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Sure, as long as Mojang says having a toggle-able filter is fine then I think thats the best way to go. However, if Mojang disagrees then the chat should be left as it is.
 
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Cube won't lose players, especially after they launch their server on the BTU thing. Sure, maybe a few well-known people might play less often but Cube won't be dying anytime soon. But if this continues to happen Cube will definitely start dropping down.

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The thread was really well constructed with facts and well presented!

Mentioned Filter Changes:
I thought about it for a while and can say that allowing people to swear in general would be a bad idea, even if it's not targeted towards someone. A toggle would be REALLY REALLY helpful and the fact that parties can't have this is a pain in the back.

Second Suggestion:
Simple but useful. Knowing which word is being blocked could help clean up the filter too.

Conclusion:
The management should definitely take a look at this thread and talk about it. If this too would be ignored as rest of the threads it would really make Cube look bad.
 

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Hi I'm back with another suggestion.
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Alright suggestion is: Change pchat text to another color or make it customizable for the love of everyone please. Party chat is meant to be extra distinguishable from normal chat. With everything being yellow that doesn't work. Just add a command called /p chatcolor <color>

Thanks
What color do you think they should make party chat? I was thinking white.
 
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First off, the rant. Don't read this if you're easily triggered, but don't argue against my opinion or the suggestions if you haven't fully read my rant. I'm always open to criticism, but not to ignorance and stupidity because you have't read the full message. Thanks.

Oke so this part is the rant just wanted to mention that.
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/fix-the-new-update.200731/page-15
I'll mainly be reacting on these comments, if you want my opinion just read this thread and all it's comments: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/remove-f-from-the-chat-filter.200800/

"The amount of reports we have received the past few months which contain swearing in party chat or /fmsg is insane. Apparently enough players do not feel comfortable when something like that happens in a "known environment" as you guys call it since it is amongst "friends".""

The amount of reports which contain swearing in party chat or fmsg have gone up in the last month not because people suddenly started to swear out there a lot out of the blue, but because reporters (read: helper wannabes) have nothing else to report anymore. Sentinel took care of the hackers, and the new punishment system took care of the crossteamers. So what do you do when you want a lot of reports but those things are barely happening anymore? You look for something else to report to get that report number up to put it in your signature because obviously that's how you'll get helper the fastest nowadays, and thus begins the reporting of swearing in party chat and /fmsg. There are no other things to report anymore and people are desperate for reports.

Once again, if you don't like the people in your friend list or party because they use words that offend you, all you need to do is unfriend them or leave the party. It's not a problem. (unless your goal is to report as many players as possible, in that case you stay in the party and try to get those sweet mutes don't you?)

"I understand "some" players want to be able to type certain messages in party chat or /fmsg their friends which contain swearwords. However I think it's also possible to have a fun time with each other without swearing."

A simple look at the poll of these threads: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/fix-the-new-update.200731, https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/remove-f-from-the-chat-filter.200800 defeats the "some" argument. It's the large majority and you can't deny that. It's also not just swearwords, also links, lenny faces, whatever. More on that in the actual suggestion.

Sure it's possible, but players don't like it, and it will cause them to leave:

"The recent chat filter change has been a debated topic ever since it was introduced. As it stands right now with being a Microsoft and Xbox partner we are required to follow certain guidelines in regards to specific functions in the server to make the server be accessible to all ages."

"Debated topic":

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For what it's worth, swearing was originally going to be allowed in party chats when the idea was first proposed.
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Images from @Landviz and @Sophie

Seeing these images, I wouldn't call it "debated", more like "decided against popular opinion because of silly reasons"

I also highly doubt that those certain guidelines you are required to follow mention that the server must specifically block the characters "F" or "L". I also doubt they specifically mention that players are not allowed to speak Russian or proper Spanish in chat, nor are allowed to put a lenny face in chat, nor are allowed to send links to friends (when they freaking asked for the link as well for sctup's sake)

"We understand that you may feel frustrated that you no longer have the freedom to express things as you did before, but unfortunately in situations like this, our hands are tied"
(I highly recommend you to untie your hands if you want this server to not die)

I do not know the specifics, but could you just block the death threats and racial slurs etc, but keep words like "ez"(literally an abbreviation of the word "easy") and allow links?

"Both us and Microsoft want everyone of all ages to be able to have an enjoyable experience and this is one of the small ways we have to adjust for that."

"Enjoyable experience". One look at the polls and threads earlier mentioned should say enough about this. You're making the experience a whole less enjoyable to most of us, It's a fornicating fact. Adjusting for everyone of all ages to be able to have an enjoyable experience would be to change this update immediately, and sctuppen listen to your playerbase.

"I do hope you understand why this change was made and why it won’t be getting changed back anytime soon.
- theminecoder"

Nice finish line. Here's mine:
https://gyazo.com/af907f0274f0459458122b7d4f587fa0
(credits @Guildmaster )

"Gonna lock this thread as well because it is a non-debatable topic. New threads about this topic will also be linked here."

I dare you to link this thread.

/rant.

BONUS ROUND:
Complaining threads and threads suggesting alternatives:
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/remove-f-from-the-chat-filter.200800/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/fix-the-new-update.200731/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/this-is-a-kid-friendly-server-huh-ffa-thinks-otherwise.200892/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/swearing-in-party-chat-solution-to-make-everybody-happy.200774/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/old-chat-back.200660/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/fix-new-chat-update.200789/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/spectator-chat.200689/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/add-dislike-buttons-to-official-news-threads.200677/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/filter-in-party-friend-chat.200724/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/new-update.200740/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/cant-say-what-you-want-in-fmsg.200695/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/here’s-an-idea.200680/
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/filtering-party-chat.200670/

The suggestion:
Make a chatfilter in party chat toggleable and have the default on ON. Also remove the rule making it punishable to swear in general, for example "Shit I died". (so targeted chat offense like "<> you" still counts, don't worry I'm not an anarchist).

Why?
This makes the majority of players now unhappy with the update happy again.
People can send each other links again. (for instance an imgur link of a screenshot I want to send to @jollow250 )
It will decrease the chat reports. This is a good thing unless you want to brag about how many friends you have betrayed, in which case I say to you: Go ahead and start a poll to ask for making it reportable again, let's see how many people will agree with you.

Second suggestion:
Replace blocked words in normal chat with asterisks (Sylly you *****) so we don't have to type in the whole message again because 1 character is censored. If somehow you absolutely hate this, please instead at least change the message from "You are not allowed to say this" to "You are not allowed to say <word>"

Thanks.

EDIT:

Hi I'm back with another suggestion.
View attachment 139764
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS?
LOOK AT THAT! WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT!


Alright suggestion is: Change pchat text to another color or make it customizable for the love of everyone please. Party chat is meant to be extra distinguishable from normal chat. With everything being yellow that doesn't work. Just add a command called /p chatcolor <color>

Thanks
i always miss the chat my friends send me because it is the same color and i agree with this suggestion
 

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What about the chat filter update?
I also highly doubt that those certain guidelines you are required to follow mention that the server must specifically block the characters "F" or "L". I also doubt they specifically mention that players are not allowed to speak Russian or proper Spanish in chat, nor are allowed to put a lenny face in chat, nor are allowed to send links to friends (when they freaking asked for the link as well for sctup's sake)

"We understand that you may feel frustrated that you no longer have the freedom to express things as you did before, but unfortunately in situations like this, our hands are tied"
(I highly recommend you to untie your hands if you want this server to not die)

I do not know the specifics, but could you just block the death threats and racial slurs etc, but keep words like "ez"(literally an abbreviation of the word "easy") and allow links?
 

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I mean that the mc partnership is related to the chat filter. So trashjang controls cube, so we cant do anything. Because management wants that money so they wont leave.
 
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