Java Maps that need to go

[404Owl]

Ok, everyone knows the system that chooses which maps are available has problems. Part of the problem is that there are simply to many maps. This is a list of maps that I think need to go, and i hope to get people’s feedback.

- All 2 person maps except Shipwreck and pizza. There are simply too many 2 person maps.

- Huts. The whole in mid is annoying, and the low level diamond gens make it hard to get gear

- Instruments. The ladders are annoying, and getting to the gens is annoying. Also, not enough space to pvp

- Magic. The ring below the bases make hiding and camping way too easy

- Western. There are lots of 5 person maps, and western is the most annoying. The hills make skybasing easy, and it’s to easy to spawntrap people

- Rome. The slabs is mid are super annoying.

I will be adding more maps into this thread soon, when I have more time.

I’m aware that the purpose of this thread is to list maps that need to go, but there needs to be more 6 person maps.

Thanks,
Owl

 

[xFqbz]

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[Passer]

I feel like some people might still enjoy these maps. I don’t really see why they need to be removed. If you are iron rank and above you can always just pick your own map.

 

[Gemmmmie]

Honestly, I prefer some of those maps you have named, yet others you haven't mentioned I rather not play. It is all about a person's preference and the gameplay they enjoy. For example, I love the map Huts due to the low Diamond Generators and the broken Gold Generator at the start, mainly because it mixes up strategies and in some ways makes the game a bit harder if someone did get better gear. However, I find these games enjoyable where others may not. However, I don't think these maps should be removed - maybe Instruments, the ladders slow the game down intensely. Yet overall very few maps should be removed.

 

[Katsia Stray]

You might not personally like those maps, but there is an entire community out there who love those maps and would hate to see them go

Not to mention there are people who made those maps, whether they are designers or players

 

[404Owl]

You might not personally like those maps, but there is an entire community out there who love those maps and would hate to see them go

Not to mention there are people who made those maps, whether they are designers or players

I know. I’m just saying that there are kinda a lot of maps, and removing low quality ones would mean the good maps are open more. Just saying “no” isn’t really helpful. What are maps you think could go?

 

[404Owl]

I feel like some people might still enjoy these maps. I don’t really see why they need to be removed. If you are iron rank and above you can always just pick your own map.

True, but the thing is that there are so many maps that any one map is pretty unlikely to be open. Maps that are of the highest quality such as jungle, food, kingdom, and teaparty are rarely open. Removing low quality maps like instruments and all the 10 player maps would help out a lot.

 

[Katsia Stray]

I know. I’m just saying that there are kinda a lot of maps, and removing low quality ones would mean the good maps are open more. Just saying “no” isn’t really helpful. What are maps you think could go?

To be fair I only know huts and that's one of my favourite maps. Still, there are people who's favourite maps are the ones you mentioned so I say just keep them

If too many maps really is a problem, they could make only certain maps come each month and switch them around

 

[404Owl]

To be fair I only know huts and that's one of my favourite maps. Still, there are people who's favourite maps are the ones you mentioned so I say just keep them

If too many maps really is a problem, they could make only certain maps come each month and switch them around

Honestly, rotating maps isnt a bad idea. Would you mind if I made a suggestion thread on it with a little more detail?

 

[Katsia Stray]

Honestly, rotating maps isnt a bad idea. Would you mind if I made a suggestion thread on it with a little more detail?

Go ahead, I'll look at it aswell

 

[Zathelas]

Just no, I love to play the duo map Toys and Medieval, old school. I don't think they should removing maps because you don't like them and the maps have there things. The maps are good enough to play on imo. I simply agree removing the the glass and wool in Magic and replacing the slabs into normal blocks so you can build. Also, there is an thread going on from the slabs in Rome and there is an Escalated thread about the Magic map. But removing the maps wouldn't be a good idea tho.

 

[LeCastel]

This just comes down to preferences. I play mainly solo Eggwars and there are some maps I find truly awful. Not how they look, but gameplay wise. It's like they haven't been playtested at all.

But then others actually really enjoy those maps and don't like the ones I consider the best.

 

[Fesa]

Actually no, ty!

Most 2 maps are great, city/library /forest/.... no reason to delete any
Huts is a wonderful map, just because the low dia gens. I'm not sure what's bad about it, can't win without being over geared too bad
Instruments is the best 3 maps imo, it's fast flat mid, not a lot of dia and only 12 players. Plus ancient, no remove
Magic, the ring is quite interesting, gives a different play style since players can block safe/fall on it and survive. For camping, it's not hard to run in F5 and find a player. Just turn on hitboxes
Western is an excellent 5 map, different play styles depending on your enemies fast obby if you rush mid. Dia gens apart and only lvl2. The hills do not really make players camp, I hardly see anyone camping in the map tbh
Rome, Mivke fixed that for us cause @Mivkeee is a legend
(Rome still bad tho, up dia gen)

 

[Deann]

There do need to be more 6p maps, but other than that I disagree with most of this. Most of the 2p maps are great, including Shipwreck and Pizza. Instruments is the best 3p map in my eyes, and Western is one of the best 5p maps. It's really all just personal preference, there's no point in deleting maps unless they're objectively terrible.

 

[EggCracker12]

True, but the thing is that there are so many maps that any one map is pretty unlikely to be open. Maps that are of the highest quality such as jungle, food, kingdom, and teaparty are rarely open. Removing low quality maps like instruments and all the 10 player maps would help out a lot.

maps like tea party and food take too long not only the game but also the map filling takes so long too which makes other games take too long to start!
for that reason i think those are the only 2 maps that should go

 

[404Owl]

maps like tea party and food take too long not only the game but also the map filling takes so long too which makes other games take too long to start!
for that reason i think those are the only 2 maps that should go

How fun a map is to play isn’t really centered around how long it takes. Also, it takes like 2 minutes max for these maps to fill, and it’s rare that it actually takes 2 minutes. I get that the 10 player maps are good for farming wins, but in terms of actually getting better at pvp, teaparty is mich better.

 

[Blqde]

I agree that there aren't enough 6 player maps. It get's hard to play eggwars when you have a party of 6. The only other thing you could do would be to play 3v3s or 2v2v2s.

 

[qDeqni]

In my opinion, all the maps are great for different reasons, and I believe there are more people who thinks like me. But removing maps wouldn’t help the cause, I believe that they should rather add more maps for 5 and 6 player teams.

That or update/fix the game selector. An idea I have (I don’t know if it has already been posted anywhere else, it probably has but anyways..) is that make people able to choose around how many people they would want on each team.

- Example: either choose maps with 2-4 people in a team, or choose maps with 5-10 players.

I believe this would solve some problems, like with parties if you are a stone ranker or if you just want a random map but with a certain amount of players. Would also probably help with starting games since two different maps would fill at the same time which would faster lead to the maps some people want to play

 

[Grove]

I understand your rationale for having these maps removed, but all the ones you mentioned are all fairly popular/well liked in their own ways.

Additionally, I feel as if removing almost every 2 player map is a really bad move, whether they’re ‘low quality’ or not. Not everyone is going to like every single 2 map (I have plenty myself that I dislike playing on), but by removing all but 2 is going to really kill duos, since there’re plenty of people that enjoy playing with only one other person, myself included.

As for Huts, Instruments, and Magic, I suppose you could say they’re not quite the ‘norm’ because your play style on them is going to be slightly different compared to some other maps. They’re far from my personal favorites but it brings some variance to Egg maps and I disagree with them being removed.

Western I understand where you’re coming from with the skybasing possibility, but personally speaking I don’t think I’ve ever encountered more than one team that even bothered trying to. It’s not a very campable map and most western games can be pretty fast paced depending on the teams.

With Rome, I don’t really play it that much to have a solid opinion on the slabs in mid, but it’s a slightly more pvp oriented map than others imo. 10 player maps are typically fast paced games, and I don’t think people focus too much on going crazy with blocks/building in mid.

Having extra 6 player maps would be pretty cool and if we can see them in the future, I’m sure it’d definitely shake things up a bit :)

Anyways, that’s just my take on all of these. I don’t particularly agree with everything you said, but I still understand your side of this and I respect your opinion on it :)