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Should there be more 1.8 pvp games.

  • Yes

    Votes: 20 45.5%
  • No

    Votes: 24 54.5%

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ehh u made some mistakes you can remove some thing from the 1.9 list
rods cause you done just those in pvp for 1.9+
snowballs
offhand/shield (no one is jusing the shield cause its unbalanced and trash with the use delay)
everything with the kb cause that removes the combo's (and i think you want to let the commbo's stay otherwise 1.9=100% trash)
and the things with 4versions cause that has nothing to do with pvp and are really good updates

Are you having auto-correct problems?

Rods are usable in 1.9+ for the pull function, or you can use the kb-rod plugin like 1.8- servers do.

Snowballs are still a thing in 1.9+

Offhand for other things is still very useful, and shield is only useless on Cubecraft because it's still on 1.9, before the shield buff in 1.11. Though I admit shield could still use some changes, it's certainly not a useless item.

Uh, no actually, the kb in 1.9+ being lessened allows you to extend combos longer because players won't spontaneously fly 5 blocks away from you.
 
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SpankMeSanta

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No we are asking to add a alternitve version for the pvpers to play in.
He is basically asking you "why don't you ask spamclick servers to create a game like blockwars and play there instead?" instead of you trying to turn cubecraft into hypixel v2
 

MagnificentSpam

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What if the attack cooldown was 0.5 seconds instead of 0.6 seconds? Then nobody could argue that it takes less skill than spamclick combat since you can do the exact same hits, you just can't click inbetween. Definitely requires more skill (sure, making the game harder isn't necessarily good, but still, SKILLS). Now in reality it's 0.125 seconds longer, not a big difference.
 
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^ No because the very thing that makes 1.7 people think they're better than 1.12 people is their ability to click a lot.
 

MagnificentSpam

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^ No because the very thing that makes 1.7 people think they're better than 1.12 people is their ability to click a lot.
But they only click that fast so one of those clicks will probably be at the correct time. If you can only click at the correct time, that's undeniably harder.
 

SlipperyEJ

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He is basically asking you "why don't you ask spamclick servers to create a game like blockwars and play there instead?" instead of you trying to turn cubecraft into hypixel v2
I tihnk your just salty because I beat you beat you in the 1v1s hmh
 

SlipperyEJ

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Are you having auto-correct problems?

Rods are usable in 1.9+ for the pull function, or you can use the kb-rod plugin like 1.8- servers do.

Snowballs are still a thing in 1.9+

Offhand for other things is still very useful, and shield is only useless on Cubecraft because it's still on 1.9, before the shield buff in 1.11. Though I admit shield could still use some changes, it's certainly not a useless item.

Uh, no actually, the kb in 1.9+ being lessened allows you to extend combos longer because players won't spontaneously fly 5 blocks away from you.
Rods can we used without a plugin in 1.8 legit heres a video of me trying.

Right but combos arnt a thing anymore thanks to 1.5 seconds between hits so snowballs are useless for freezing and comboing

Exactly

Again combos arnt a thing because the player has more than enough time to run away between hits.
 

MagnificentSpam

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Rods can we used without a plugin in 1.8 legit heres a video of me trying.

Right but combos arnt a thing anymore thanks to 1.5 seconds between hits so snowballs are useless for freezing and comboing

Exactly

Again combos arnt a thing because the player has more than enough time to run away between hits.
Where did you test it? And did you test it on players or mobs? You can totally wombocombo cows in 1.8. Same for snowballs. You can freeze mobs but no players.

If you think combos aren't a thing you probably didn't play it very much. I want to see you run away between hits, 1v1 me and win that way pls.
 

SlipperyEJ

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Where did you test it? And did you test it on players or mobs? You can totally wombocombo cows in 1.8. Same for snowballs. You can freeze mobs but no players.

If you think combos aren't a thing you probably didn't play it very much. I want to see you run away between hits, 1v1 me and win that way pls.
I tested it on a server with a alt lol

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SpankMeSanta

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I tihnk your just salty because I beat you beat you in the 1v1s hmh
You beat me the first time bc I lava'd myself, 2nd time because I was too lazy to gapple, then the third time when I played properly I demolished you lol, and all that with a broken right click (I use R on my keyboard for right click) and 150ms on that server lol, not to mention you were too scared to fight me in potpvp/sg. You talk so much about how 1.8 is superior yet you are so so bad at it. Also nice way of avoiding my points... LOL
 

MagnificentSpam

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I tested it on a server with a alt lol

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I still stand by my point. You can hit and then run around in 1.9, but you won't win that way, so it doesn't matter. On Cubecraft classic duels I can actually hit and run and still win. I believe you that it's not possible on actual 1.8 servers, but I can still run, I'll just lose. How long a game takes depends on the armor. You can't use a bad strategy, lose the game and then complain that the game was boring. If both sides try to win, it is a lot more interesting.

Edit: Also yes, random duels, especially OP duels on cubecraft are boring. That's not because of the 1.9 combat but because the players are bad. Also if you only play with 150-200ms ping it might not be as fun as 1.9 combat with normal ping.
 

SlipperyEJ

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You beat me the first time bc I lava'd myself, 2nd time because I was too lazy to gapple, then the third time when I played properly I demolished you lol, and all that with a broken right click (I use R on my keyboard for right click) and 150ms on that server lol, not to mention you were too scared to fight me in potpvp/sg. You talk so much about how 1.8 is superior yet you are so so bad at it. Also nice way of avoiding my points... LOL
Well that proves you are bad. Again that proves you are bad. The third time I lost by half a heart lol. I wanted to play potpvp but you insisted on sg which I suck at.Not my problem you broke all that stuff.
 

SlipperyEJ

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I still stand by my point. You can hit and then run around in 1.9, but you won't win that way, so it doesn't matter. On Cubecraft classic duels I can actually hit and run and still win. I believe you that it's not possible on actual 1.8 servers, but I can still run, I'll just lose. How long a game takes depends on the armor. You can't use a bad strategy, lose the game and then complain that the game was boring. If both sides try to win, it is a lot more interesting.
If thats your opinion sure.
 

MagnificentSpam

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If thats your opinion sure.
It is. You said combos aren't a thing because you can hit and run. If you do that, you will lose the game, because every now and then I'll get a second hit on you while you can never get a second hit on me. If both sides try to win, there definitely are combos of more than two hits.
 
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Right but combos arnt a thing anymore thanks to 1.5 seconds between hits so snowballs are useless for freezing and comboing
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Again combos arnt a thing because the player has more than enough time to run away between hits.

At this point you're just being willfully ignorant. I must have told you at least 8 times by now that the time between attacks in 1.9+ is only .62 seconds. That cooldown is definitely short enough that snowball-stalling can be a thing.

People don't have more time to run away between hits.
 

SlipperyEJ

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At this point you're just being willfully ignorant. I must have told you at least 8 times by now that the time between attacks in 1.9+ is only .62 seconds. That cooldown is definitely short enough that snowball-stalling can be a thing.

People don't have more time to run away between hits.
Where did you get that infomation from. Anyway .62 is more than a third of 1.5

Yes they do...
 

MagnificentSpam

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Where did you get that infomation from. Anyway .62 is more than a third of 1.5

Yes they do...
If you run away between hits, you lose. It doesn't really matter if you have 0.125 seconds longer to run away. I have a chance to get a second hit while you don't. It's not a viable strategy. You could as well argue that 1.8 combat is boring because I can take off all my armor to end a game quickly without fighting.
 
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Where did you get that infomation from. Anyway .62 is more than a third of 1.5

Yes they do...

Are you actually joking? Where did I get the information about the attack cooldown in 1.9+? I dunno, maybe from playing 1.9+ and seeing how long I had to wait between fully-charged swings, the Minecraft Wiki, or just basic math - just take the inverse of the "1.6 attack speed" value that's stated on every sword, and you get .625 seconds (rounded down to .6 due to the way that Minecraft ticks work).
 
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