Nobody hear our problems!

[Martinocom]

Crashes
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/im-very-angry.207367/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/stop-those-random-crashing.204163/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/towers-keeps-crashing.203281/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/got-flase-banned.203416/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/very-frequent-crash-boot-kick-from-tower-defense.202013/

Votekick solutions + misplacing
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-votekick.206820/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/is-claiming-a-bannable-offense.207106/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/votekick-back.206211/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/how-to-fix-td.205287/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/report-2-team-grievers.205351/
6) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/saving-spots.204761/
7) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-vote-kick.196452/

How many time do you need to give us some alternative to "kick vote"?
How many time do you still need to solve those crashing problems?

Since Aug 27 2017 (the last post of votekick) I see many changes in all games, Towers remains always behind all. Nobody is giving importance at this game and it's ruining itself.

Too many people are abusing misplacing / taking places for nothing. Too many people still can't play and don't want to learn: - (sorry but I can't stand comments like "they have to learn"; they don't want to, I tried in every single language I know to teach or give some tips). Too many pepole randomly crashing, this for almost one year. Nothing changed, when it's gonna to change?

Try to play as a player, try to win a normal game without writing to noobs about the game. Try not to get frustrated about pepole placing a straight row of 30 x non-upgraded archers and try to win. Try to place or gain some money and all spaces will be occupied by 5x5 towers in wrong places. Try to play more than one day and try not to get angry cos you crashed or someone just don't hear you or is doing exaclty nothing except spamming with those wooden swords (that optional 1.9 PVP...).

This is a really misunderstading. This game is really interesting, but people and the game itseltf is getting more and more frustrating, boring, useless and funless. All this problems will be solved?

When it's going to change?
And if you don't have alternatives to votekick, just leave it.
If you need to replace money, will you delete money because you need to replace it? You'll keep them 'till you get a better solution.

 

[Commissioned]

well I mean suggestions for this have been denied so there is little chance it will happen

 

[ymbmg]

Cursing may get your forums account banned temporarily. That aside, plenty of players have tried to emphasize that the Tower Defence community isn't happy and hasn't been for months. I hope that fixing Tower Defence is prioritized and handled properly in the near future.

 

[HurmitCurtis]

Crashes
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/im-very-angry.207367/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/stop-those-random-crashing.204163/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/towers-keeps-crashing.203281/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/got-flase-banned.203416/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/very-frequent-crash-boot-kick-from-tower-defense.202013/

Votekick solutions + misplacing
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-votekick.206820/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/is-claiming-a-bannable-offense.207106/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/votekick-back.206211/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/how-to-fix-td.205287/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/report-2-team-grievers.205351/
6) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/saving-spots.204761/
7) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-vote-kick.196452/

How many time do you need to give us some alternative to "kick vote"?
How many time do you still need to solve those crashing problems?

Since Aug 27 2017 (the last post of votekick) I see many changes in all games, Towers remains always behind all. Nobody is giving importance at this game and it's ruining itself.

Too many people are abusing misplacing / taking places for nothing. Too many people still can't play and don't want to learn: they just don't give a f**k about what you're writing! (sorry but I can't stand comments like "they have to learn"; they don't want to, I tried in every single language I know to teach or give some tips). Too many pepole randomly crashing, this for almost one year. Nothing changed, when it's gonna to change?

Try to play as a player, try to win a normal game without writing to noobs about the game. Try not to get frustrated about pepole placing a straight row of 30 x non-upgraded archers and try to win. Try to place or gain some money and all spaces will be occupied by 5x5 towers in wrong places. Try to play more than one day and try not to get angry cos you crashed or someone just don't hear you or is doing exaclty nothing except spamming with those wooden swords (that optional 1.9 PVP...).

This is a really misunderstading. This game is really interesting, but people and the game itseltf is getting more and more frustrating, boring, useless and funless. All this problems will be solved?

When it's going to change?
And if you don't have alternatives to votekick, just leave it.
If you need to replace money, will you delete money because you need to replace it? You'll keep them 'till you get a better solution.

Playing on 1.10.2 will help the crash issue. (There should really be a sign in lobby informing players to do this because most do not read this site) As far as I'm aware the crashes can't be solved yet. As for the miss placing of towers...a vote off tower was suggested by a staff member, but I have no idea if this will be tried or not, or even if they are gonna fix it in any other way

 

[Commissioned]

Cursing may get your forums account banned temporaril

i curse you with the curse of yambnof! you shall now puke slugs all day every day

oops did i get banned

 

[ymbmg]

i curse you with the curse of yambnof! you shall now puke slugs all day every day

oops did i get banned

Not that type of cursing. I was referring to their use of "curse words" or swearing.

The screenshot is from this link: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/official-rules.134453/

 

[TriangleAttack]

Not that type of cursing. I was referring to their use of "curse words" or swearing.
View attachment 146187

The screenshot is from this link: https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/official-rules.134453/

Oh really? -.-


No one likes a mini mod. That's also against the rules.

 

[Story]

Oh really? -.-


No one likes a mini mod. That's also against the rules.

Telling someone the rules isn't mini-modding.

 

[Mecha_San]

So many sources. I could see all your evidence. Cube should definitely not ignore this problem in TD

 

[Martinocom]

Cubecraft should really do something.

1) For me retrocompatibility is useless and main reason of various problems (try to do a retro-compatible app for iphone or android :rolleyes: )
2) If the game isn't playable, just make it unavaiable (like parkour for so many time)
3) You got soooo many feedbacks, just hear them and do something
4) Don't reduce the community supporting tower defence, the game isn't so famous like others. Yeah, many just don't know how to play, many are just playing to ruin your game, but we need to grow.

 

[_EliteStevee]

Crashes
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/im-very-angry.207367/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/stop-those-random-crashing.204163/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/towers-keeps-crashing.203281/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/got-flase-banned.203416/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/very-frequent-crash-boot-kick-from-tower-defense.202013/

Votekick solutions + misplacing
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-votekick.206820/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/is-claiming-a-bannable-offense.207106/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/votekick-back.206211/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/how-to-fix-td.205287/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/report-2-team-grievers.205351/
6) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/saving-spots.204761/
7) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-vote-kick.196452/

How many time do you need to give us some alternative to "kick vote"?
How many time do you still need to solve those crashing problems?

Since Aug 27 2017 (the last post of votekick) I see many changes in all games, Towers remains always behind all. Nobody is giving importance at this game and it's ruining itself.

Too many people are abusing misplacing / taking places for nothing. Too many people still can't play and don't want to learn: they just don't give a f**k about what you're writing! (sorry but I can't stand comments like "they have to learn"; they don't want to, I tried in every single language I know to teach or give some tips). Too many pepole randomly crashing, this for almost one year. Nothing changed, when it's gonna to change?

Try to play as a player, try to win a normal game without writing to noobs about the game. Try not to get frustrated about pepole placing a straight row of 30 x non-upgraded archers and try to win. Try to place or gain some money and all spaces will be occupied by 5x5 towers in wrong places. Try to play more than one day and try not to get angry cos you crashed or someone just don't hear you or is doing exaclty nothing except spamming with those wooden swords (that optional 1.9 PVP...).

This is a really misunderstading. This game is really interesting, but people and the game itseltf is getting more and more frustrating, boring, useless and funless. All this problems will be solved?

When it's going to change?
And if you don't have alternatives to votekick, just leave it.
If you need to replace money, will you delete money because you need to replace it? You'll keep them 'till you get a better solution.

nice idea but... i dont geuss most people play it, im only playing for daily

 

[Martinocom]

12/06/2018
From the cronacles of Tower Defence
The last survivors of the Tower Defence planet are trying not to crash again. The CubeCraft forces left our survivors on their own and they must fight over the day and night, trying to send monsters. Every tower, every pigman sent to the opponents is considered a risky operation, that could bring in a /leave, forced by the game. There will be no prisoners, no mercy. You will just crash, and others with you.
The situation is not getting better. Entire teams just crash due to Java problems, that cannot be mitigated.

Are our heroes brave enough to pass trough the crashes? Will the BSOD appear? Will Java be finally defeated by Cubecraft Forces?
We'll see it.... In the next episode of Cronacles of Tower Defence.

 

[Deleted member 346231]

Cursing may get your forums account banned temporarily.

heck

 

[Sweetenerera]

heck

NETWORK BAN!!!

 

[shanewolf38]

Tower Defence is such a fantastic game, which makes it just that more disappointing that they haven't fixed the crashing problem yet. It makes the game almost unplayable when once every 3-5 games, you get to see a lovely "Loading terrain..." message. I'm surprised a server as big as CubeCraft hasn't fixed this issue, despite the relatively smaller size of the Tower Defence community.

 

[HurmitCurtis]

Tower Defence is such a fantastic game, which makes it just that more disappointing that they haven't fixed the crashing problem yet. It makes the game almost unplayable when once every 3-5 games, you get to see a lovely "Loading terrain..." message. I'm surprised a server as big as CubeCraft hasn't fixed this issue, despite the relatively smaller size of the Tower Defence community.

I'm sure if they knew how to fix it they would, even tho the leach is kicking people apparently the crash reports are showing up a number of issues, quetzi has been at td alot lately trying to figure this issue Untill they figure out how it's fixed I suggest that you play on 1.10.2 what does need to be solved a.s.a.p is the tower placement issue.

 

[Seishan]

Crashes
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/im-very-angry.207367/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/stop-those-random-crashing.204163/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/towers-keeps-crashing.203281/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/got-flase-banned.203416/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/very-frequent-crash-boot-kick-from-tower-defense.202013/

Votekick solutions + misplacing
1) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-votekick.206820/
2) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/is-claiming-a-bannable-offense.207106/
3) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/votekick-back.206211/
4) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/how-to-fix-td.205287/
5) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/report-2-team-grievers.205351/
6) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/saving-spots.204761/
7) https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/bring-back-vote-kick.196452/

How many time do you need to give us some alternative to "kick vote"?
How many time do you still need to solve those crashing problems?

Since Aug 27 2017 (the last post of votekick) I see many changes in all games, Towers remains always behind all. Nobody is giving importance at this game and it's ruining itself.

Too many people are abusing misplacing / taking places for nothing. Too many people still can't play and don't want to learn: - (sorry but I can't stand comments like "they have to learn"; they don't want to, I tried in every single language I know to teach or give some tips). Too many pepole randomly crashing, this for almost one year. Nothing changed, when it's gonna to change?

Try to play as a player, try to win a normal game without writing to noobs about the game. Try not to get frustrated about pepole placing a straight row of 30 x non-upgraded archers and try to win. Try to place or gain some money and all spaces will be occupied by 5x5 towers in wrong places. Try to play more than one day and try not to get angry cos you crashed or someone just don't hear you or is doing exaclty nothing except spamming with those wooden swords (that optional 1.9 PVP...).

This is a really misunderstading. This game is really interesting, but people and the game itseltf is getting more and more frustrating, boring, useless and funless. All this problems will be solved?

When it's going to change?
And if you don't have alternatives to votekick, just leave it.
If you need to replace money, will you delete money because you need to replace it? You'll keep them 'till you get a better solution.

I believe that it has updated so that towers have two paths to go down, however this requires you to buy some of the upgrades again.

 

[shanewolf38]

I'm sure if they knew how to fix it they would, even tho the leach is kicking people apparently the crash reports are showing up a number of issues, quetzi has been at td alot lately trying to figure this issue Untill they figure out how it's fixed I suggest that you play on 1.10.2 what does need to be solved a.s.a.p is the tower placement issue.

I agree that they don't know how to fix it, but I'm pretty sure that has to do with the fact that the developers simply aren't giving much attention to it. With the amount of crash report data they have, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't be able to identify the problem if they put in at least moderate effort. And yeah, the tower placement issue is a huge problem as well, but I'd say it's about as important as the crashing one. I'd much rather have people misplace towers than crash once every 4 games.

 

[Laura]

I agree that they don't know how to fix it, but I'm pretty sure that has to do with the fact that the developers simply aren't giving much attention to it. With the amount of crash report data they have, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't be able to identify the problem if they put in at least moderate effort. And yeah, the tower placement issue is a huge problem as well, but I'd say it's about as important as the crashing one. I'd much rather have people misplace towers than crash once every 4 games.

That's not how crash reports and debugging work.
2 Crash reports does not equal %200 more information than 1 crash report. It potentially might, but on the whole most crash reports are along the line of "Was playing with my friend Jake, then it broke and lost all my progress. Not happy, fix it."... Nothing about what actions they did up to that point, how long the game had been running for, if they'd noticed anything unusual happening before that point.

We've looked into the Loading Terrain issue MinerWare occasionally throws, got the crash report and logs from that. The only useful bit of info in it is a line merely stating "Concurrent Modification Exception"...
Due to the way the compiler works and the software running the servers and games, along with the various other systems managing and handling games, you don't get a a big magic Mickey Mouse glove pointing you to the line the error is caused on. All you know is that somewhere within the 20,000 to 50,000 lines of code running at any one time, there's a list in there being modified by two different things and it's not liking it.

I encourage anybody who gets this error to report it along with the list of microgames they had up to that point, as it could be due to certain games playing in a certain order, or elements of those games conflicting with later games, or it could be in any of the other game management systems running at the time. That, and how it appears to happen completely at random, makes it very difficult to track down from where it's originating.

As for TD, I'm assuming it's a similar issue; could be a bug in one of the game management systems, or failing that, a complete stab in the dark, Minecraft gets quirky with entities, and as there's usually a fair few in TD it could be something to do with that.

 

[shanewolf38]

That's not how crash reports and debugging work.
2 Crash reports does not equal %200 more information than 1 crash report. It potentially might, but on the whole most crash reports are along the line of "Was playing with my friend Jake, then it broke and lost all my progress. Not happy, fix it."... Nothing about what actions they did up to that point, how long the game had been running for, if they'd noticed anything unusual happening before that point.

We've looked into the Loading Terrain issue MinerWare occasionally throws, got the crash report and logs from that. The only useful bit of info in it is a line merely stating "Concurrent Modification Exception"...
Due to the way the compiler works and the software running the servers and games, along with the various other systems managing and handling games, you don't get a a big magic Mickey Mouse glove pointing you to the line the error is caused on. All you know is that somewhere within the 20,000 to 50,000 lines of code running at any one time, there's a list in there being modified by two different things and it's not liking it.

I encourage anybody who gets this error to report it along with the list of microgames they had up to that point, as it could be due to certain games playing in a certain order, or elements of those games conflicting with later games, or it could be in any of the other game management systems running at the time. That, and how it appears to happen completely at random, makes it very difficult to track down from where it's originating.

As for TD, I'm assuming it's a similar issue; could be a bug in one of the game management systems, or failing that, a complete stab in the dark, Minecraft gets quirky with entities, and as there's usually a fair few in TD it could be something to do with that.

You have a point. I've never really looked at Minecraft's crash reports and logs, so I don't know the level of detail they provide. In your first paragraph, to be clear, I'm not talking about "crash reports" where people just tell them "something broke." And I realize two crash reports are do not give 200% of the information, but they typically provide more than one. However, even if Minecraft's crash reports are worthless, you can still debug it. You mentioned 20,000 to 50,000 lines of code (yes, I know, it's just a hypothetical number), but someone familiar with how the game works wouldn't have to look through parts of the code they know would have no effect or be unlikely to affect it. Also, people have told me that playing in 1.10 prevents the crash (I've never tested it), and if that's true then the devs could look to the changes they made in the latter versions which would likely cause problems with TD.