Java Punch bows in eggwars

[Nuvoh]

The punch bow has been in eggwars for years and I think its a great item to have in the game as it adds diversity and much more. But is it really balanced? Ive been in a lot of games where people dont even bother going for iron armour. All they do is get a punch bow and thats all they need to win the game. Games drag on for a very long time due to these punch bows.

So, what im suggesting is possibly not to remove the punch bow, but to add some changes.

Here are a few recommendations:
- Make the bow cost more diamonds, or even emeralds. (this will prevent people from instantly getting a punch bow and bowspamming the whole game)

- Make the bow do less kb (It still keeps its fame, but makes it more balanced and people could bowspam less)

- Remove it completely (Theres no need to have a punch bow in the game, the other bows are very rarely used so theres almost no point in having the others when the current punch bow is in the game. If you are asking why remove it, Ive talked to a lot of people including mods and they wouldnt mind if the punch bow was removed)

Last thing I want to point out is that I find it strange how e pearls cost so much compaired to a punch bow, which is arguably more useful in general

 

[Vindicatør]

I agree with the third one. I hate punch bows. I lost a game to a stupid guy spamming the punch bow, so yeah I agree with the third one. Or the first one, It should cost a lot more honestly.

 

[InkAsriel]

i think punch bows arent really the problem, rather the price and the way people use it. people bow spam like their life is about to end, which is annoying. in stead of removing, a cooldown and higher price would be better for this.
not sure what the price of enderpearls is, so i wont say too much about that :P but i think they shouldnt be too cheap either, as its quite overpowered

 

[ShinyArrow]

Hi! I actually disagree with changing/removing the punch bow, since I think it’s already quite easy to counter it. Beside that people use the bow as a strategy, which can be really frustrating, but it’s a strategy.

- Make the bow cost more diamonds, or even emeralds. (this will prevent people from instantly getting a punch bow and bowspamming the whole game)

I think the bow isn’t that cheap and it isn’t always easy to get a punch bow, since you’ve to go to mid for diamonds and sometimes for gold aswel. To get the 25 diamonds which are needed for a punch bow, you can grab a few diamonds and upgrade your own generator (which takes a lot of time) or take the risk to die or your getting broken and stay longer in mid to get these diamonds.

When someone has a bow you can get a shield for 10 diamonds, which is quite easy to get. So you can counter a punch bow really fast.

- Make the bow do less kb (It still keeps its fame, but makes it more balanced and people could bowspam less)

I’m not sure about this one, since it should stay as a punch bow. Nerving the punch bow will make it an almost useless bow, which takes away some challenging when you’re attacking someone. Because of the knockback of the bow so many strategies can be used, which makes the gameplay more interesting and fun. When the knockback will be reduced to 1, it’s easy to stay alive when someone is shooting you.

(If I have to choose one of these suggestions to nerve the bow, I would choose this one tho.)

- Remove it completely (Theres no need to have a punch bow in the game, the other bows are very rarely used so theres almost no point in having the others when the current punch bow is in the game. If you are asking why remove it, Ive talked to a lot of people including mods and they wouldnt mind if the punch bow was removed)

As I mentioned earlier using a bow is a strategy and makes the game more interesting. Which is why I disagree with this one aswel.

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not sure what the price of enderpearls is, so i wont say too much about that :P but i think they shouldnt be too cheap either, as its quite overpowered

The price of an enderpearl is 64 diamonds.

 

[InkAsriel]

The price of an enderpearl is 64 diamonds.

ohh okey thanks :P it could be a little less maybe because long games that need EPearls most likely are camper games, which are the most frustrating if you need to farm for pearls

 

[Technosword]

I spent 15 minutes farming materials just to get hit once and knocked off (was in the middle of the map). Punch bows are so annoying and need to be made more expensive or nerfed. Thread ESCALATED!

 

[Username8234]

I spent 15 minutes farming materials just to get hit once and knocked off (was in the middle of the map). Punch bows are so annoying and need to be made more expensive or nerfed. Thread ESCALATED!

Yeah agreed people abusing camping and and trying to bow spam with punch bow
Its really annoying changed to 1 punch bow plz

 

[Zeobitz_]

Punch bows no agree make it 40 diamonds

 

[Ge1ster]

I would actually agree with them having a cooldown just like the Lucky Islands special bows, it would stop the punch bow users from spamming while still keeping a fair price for its use

 

[_The13thDoctor_]

I never have issues with punch bows, they are fairly simple to counter as I have had to deal with them in the past with no shields and cheaper prices. Honestly, I disagree with all the suggestions on here as currently, I don't see them unless it's a late game. I think it just takes a bit of skill to learn how to dodge em or counter being attacked by them. There might be some unfortunate situations where you can't but that's just the game.

I spent 15 minutes farming materials just to get hit once and knocked off (was in the middle of the map). Punch bows are so annoying and need to be made more expensive or nerfed. Thread ESCALATED!

I mean not to be rude but that's just the game. Best to be very aware of your surroundings and build defenses or carry a shield. And to be honest, there are worse things in Egg Wars than the bows.

I would actually agree with them having a cooldown just like the Lucky Islands special bows, it would stop the punch bow users from spamming while still keeping a fair price for its use

A 1-2 second cooldown I would consider agreeing with. Perhaps it can be coded to have a timer bar appear letting you know if you're on cooldown / ready to fire.

 

[Goldvelocity982]

I would actually suggest a cooldown as near the end of any game, every remaining team will be stacked and anyone who tries to bridge would be taken down by a punch bow. That's why we need a cooldown. If this does not get implemented, maybe they can reduce the price for enderpearls.

 

[Jukaido]

I spent 15 minutes farming materials just to get hit once and knocked off (was in the middle of the map). Punch bows are so annoying and need to be made more expensive or nerfed. Thread ESCALATED!

The only issue I see here is you farming for 15 mins and not even being able to counter a bow with those materials

 

[Geodas11]

I completely agree with you, punch bows are the evil of EggWars in my opinion. Bows do so much knockback, and they are so Overpowered and annoying. The price should be a lot of bigger.

 

[Maaarijn]

Hi! I actually disagree with changing/removing the punch bow, since I think it’s already quite easy to counter it. Beside that people use the bow as a strategy, which can be really frustrating, but it’s a strategy.

I think the bow isn’t that cheap and it isn’t always easy to get a punch bow, since you’ve to go to mid for diamonds and sometimes for gold aswel. To get the 25 diamonds which are needed for a punch bow, you can grab a few diamonds and upgrade your own generator (which takes a lot of time) or take the risk to die or your getting broken and stay longer in mid to get these diamonds.

When someone has a bow you can get a shield for 10 diamonds, which is quite easy to get. So you can counter a punch bow really fast.

I’m not sure about this one, since it should stay as a punch bow. Nerving the punch bow will make it an almost useless bow, which takes away some challenging when you’re attacking someone. Because of the knockback of the bow so many strategies can be used, which makes the gameplay more interesting and fun. When the knockback will be reduced to 1, it’s easy to stay alive when someone is shooting you.

(If I have to choose one of these suggestions to nerve the bow, I would choose this one tho.)

As I mentioned earlier using a bow is a strategy and makes the game more interesting. Which is why I disagree with this one aswel.

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The price of an enderpearl is 64 diamonds.

Exactly this.

Try to take out players farming diamonds before they can buy a punch bow with it. If the price would be increased, what where you thinking of then? It could be increased to 32 but would that make a difference? It's just a strategy and there are already ways to counter it, like ShinyArrow said as well, so I don't agree with removing or changing this.

 

[Ge1ster]

Exactly this.

Try to take out players farming diamonds before they can buy a punch bow with it. If the price would be increased, what where you thinking of then? It could be increased to 32 but would that make a difference? It's just a strategy and there are already ways to counter it, like ShinyArrow said as well, so I don't agree with removing or changing this.

The argument is very reasonable, and yes, it is indeed very hard to get. But after you get it, it's very strong, much more worth than the while. Having to face a person who just spams a punch bow isn't exactly fun, that's why I recommended a small cooldown. It could be around 2-3 seconds but I'm mainly against spamming a really powerful knockback based bow. It could keep the original price

Though it should definetly not be removed. It's a part of the game like you said, and there certainly are ways to counter it.

I wouldn't exactly side with keeping it the same or upping the diamond cost either though :P

 

[Ibraaahim]

I disagree

Why should it be taken out when you can easily protect against it? Because it is almost always OP (which I am actually not a fan of but ok) a shield only costs 10 diamonds. So it seems logical to me to just buy a shield.

 

[witchypurse]

I personally don’t use punch bows a lot. But i think removing them or have a cooldown, will have a verry negative effect on the amount of people playing the game. Not everyone is a pvp god, with a punch bow, the people who are less skilled in pvp have a good change.
if you change this, those players will look for another game.
Imo it just adds more dynamic to the game. You have to be aware of your surroundings and play tactically. If a team Camps their island with a bow, just upgrade mid and farm for a bit. You will have a shield or pearl in no time.

I find it strange that this thread is escaleted, while the majority of people voted no.

 

[Velocidad]

I agree with your idea, but the bow usually lengthens the games more than they should last, I would do it much more expensive or with emeralds since it is an item especially op and that can turn the game very quickly

 

[Technosword]

The only issue I see here is you farming for 15 mins and not even being able to counter a bow with those materials

How am I supposed to counter an unfair bow? I am not the most skilled EggWars player, and after preparing to fight someone getting just bowed off can be such an annoyance. Not everyone that plays EggWars is a tryhard and can always be looking out for every little detail.

 

[Maaarijn]

How am I supposed to counter an unfair bow? I am not the most skilled EggWars player, and after preparing to fight someone getting just bowed off can be such an annoyance. Not everyone that plays EggWars is a tryhard and can always be looking out for every little detail.

This is absolutely true, but there are several ways to counter it already that don't require skills. Shields and enderpearls for instance like mentioned before. I don't think it should be changed.